Black Lives Matter
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@MiketheSnow said in Black Lives Matter:
Went back, didn't see it posted
I need a gif of that guy saying "fuck alllll the way off "
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@MajorRage said in Black Lives Matter:
@JC said in Black Lives Matter:
@MajorRage said in Black Lives Matter:
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@booboo said in Black Lives Matter:
So if the car was blacked out how could they see the colour of the driver and racially profile said driver?
Maybe they used the same heightened senses that detected cannabis smell.
The question that is still begging is why did they want the car to stop in the first place? You know, before the dope smoke, the driving on the wrong side and the speeding? Do they stop A Class Mercs as a matter of routine? Or maybe that’s a yes, but only in
blackhigh violent crime neighbourhoods.Fixed it for you. Whether or not they should have been stopped or not is a question worth asking.
But they lost the entitlement to that question when they sped off.
You seem very ready to believe the official line on this. The same people who said they sped off also said the car had blacked out windows (they are tinted in the rear), that they smelled dope smoke (no dope was found and the police refused to administer a test when repeatedly asked to do so), that the car was on the wrong side of the road (it was effectively one lane and they parked on the right hand side of the road which is legal in the UK), that the woman was hysterical (she can be heard shouting to police to be careful because her baby was in the back seat), that she resisted when they put her in handcuffs (for what exactly, she wasn’t driving). They were not charged with speeding, which may be understandable as the van wouldn’t have had any radar equipment. But they could presumably have been charged with dangerous driving or failing to stop, but they weren’t.
Look, I’m hardly a poster boy for BLM. And I don’t even have a problem with profiling really. But if the police are going to use it, own up to it and get public consent for the policy. Don’t invent pretexts and the moment when they realise they’ve made a mistake own it and apologise. I imagine if what the driver was saying is true and he’s been pulled over 14 times he has a right to expect that the police fine tuned their approach a bit.
Edit: Having since seen the man bun, I retract everything. Guilty of crimes against good taste. Take him down.
Another twist today.
So Met Police says after looking at all the evidence (body cam, social media) they are satisfied and will take no action. Then, they say after "significant interest" they will refer themselves to an independent watchdog.
Then the boss of the Met today issues an apology ...
Well, what is is then? If you did nothing wrong, what are you apologising for ....
In other news, you can be sure as shit that the Met Police won't be stopping cars with any black occupants now regardless of anything. Just fucking great.
I think you’re right, that’s a likely outcome. Which will cost lives probably. The Met needs to find a way to walk the tightrope. It won’t be easy because they will come up against the same issue they had with airport security, where they end up searching blue-rinsed grannies in an attempt to demonstrate their even-handedness. They could start with telling the world that they only have a couple of options, they use intelligence, which they don’t usually have because the black community won’t talk to them, profiled stops, which is apparently racist, or random blanket stops, which will get them accused of running a police state.
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@JC Yeah, Sadiq getting involved brings me zero confidence either ...
Having said that, I don't live in London and thanks to Covid, not been there in 3 months, and unlikely to for another 3 months as well ... so it really shouldn't bother me too much.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Black Lives Matter:
@MajorRage said in Black Lives Matter:
This could go in any of a number of threads, but as she said BLM, I'll put it here ...
Amazing that she seems to absolutely fail to get it, blaming it on Trump supporters.
No love, if you post on social media that you are going to stab people who challenge your political opinions, then the problem is with YOU. Not Trump, not society, not everybody else ... YOU.
Watching that made me feel warm all over.
My heart bled.
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@Frank said in Black Lives Matter:
I guess Don Lemon would say his views have "evolved".
Scary isn't it.
Either intentional deception (which is evil considering the consequences) or like many others he's been completely brainwashed into the woke cult.
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On a mate's facebook page
I'm not racist, you know that, my gran was black.
Teaching people what they should know goes both ways.
We've had to forget that we were once the slaves of the Romans, then the bloody Vikings, and white people are still being sold as slaves today.
African countries are still selling black people today. ISIS and Al-Qaeda gain a lot of revenue from this activity. Don't hear of people wagging fingers at them.
Slavery was made legal through a law suit brought to a Virginia court by a black slave owner. At least 10 of the first 20 slave owners in America were black.
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@MiketheSnow said in Black Lives Matter:
On a mate's facebook page
I'm not racist, you know that, my gran was black.
Teaching people what they should know goes both ways.
We've had to forget that we were once the slaves of the Romans, then the bloody Vikings, and white people are still being sold as slaves today.
African countries are still selling black people today. ISIS and Al-Qaeda gain a lot of revenue from this activity. Don't hear of people wagging fingers at them.
Slavery was made legal through a law suit brought to a Virginia court by a black slave owner. At least 10 of the first 20 slave owners in America were black.
Yep. From my OU studies, I recall some of the most vociferous opposition to the abolition of slavery came from the African potentates who were raiding their enemies and kidnapping people to sell. They petitioned Parliament & the King to keep slavery going.
The other common (and current) myth is that "capitalism & the free market" was responsible for slavery. One of the most powerful arguments used by abolitionists against slavery was that it is the opposite of a free market, was inefficient, costly and stopped capitalism from operating properly. Much of the opposition to abolition actually came from the churches
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Black Lives Matter:
@MiketheSnow said in Black Lives Matter:
On a mate's facebook page
I'm not racist, you know that, my gran was black.
Teaching people what they should know goes both ways.
We've had to forget that we were once the slaves of the Romans, then the bloody Vikings, and white people are still being sold as slaves today.
African countries are still selling black people today. ISIS and Al-Qaeda gain a lot of revenue from this activity. Don't hear of people wagging fingers at them.
Slavery was made legal through a law suit brought to a Virginia court by a black slave owner. At least 10 of the first 20 slave owners in America were black.
Yep. From my OU studies, I recall some of the most vociferous opposition to the abolition of slavery came from the African potentates who were raiding their enemies and kidnapping people to sell. They petitioned Parliament & the King to keep slavery going.
The other common (and current) myth is that "capitalism & the free market" was responsible for slavery. One of the most powerful arguments used by abolitionists against slavery was that it is the opposite of a free market, was inefficient, costly and stopped capitalism from operating properly. Much of the opposition to abolition actually came from the churches
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@pakman said in Black Lives Matter:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Black Lives Matter:
@MiketheSnow said in Black Lives Matter:
On a mate's facebook page
I'm not racist, you know that, my gran was black.
Teaching people what they should know goes both ways.
We've had to forget that we were once the slaves of the Romans, then the bloody Vikings, and white people are still being sold as slaves today.
African countries are still selling black people today. ISIS and Al-Qaeda gain a lot of revenue from this activity. Don't hear of people wagging fingers at them.
Slavery was made legal through a law suit brought to a Virginia court by a black slave owner. At least 10 of the first 20 slave owners in America were black.
Yep. From my OU studies, I recall some of the most vociferous opposition to the abolition of slavery came from the African potentates who were raiding their enemies and kidnapping people to sell. They petitioned Parliament & the King to keep slavery going.
The other common (and current) myth is that "capitalism & the free market" was responsible for slavery. One of the most powerful arguments used by abolitionists against slavery was that it is the opposite of a free market, was inefficient, costly and stopped capitalism from operating properly. Much of the opposition to abolition actually came from the churches
So where's my Italian apology?
And it appears that Western Europeans did slavery better?
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@MiketheSnow said in Black Lives Matter:
And it appears that Western Europeans did slavery better?
One of things which hit me was how the slaves were better looked after than the slave-ship crews or the average southern state American as they were the more valuable commodities.
I actually found that the most horrific thing about slavery - that people's welfare depended almost solely on how much they could fetch at auction or bolster the market value of a plantation.
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@MiketheSnow said in Black Lives Matter:
So where's my Italian apology?
Dunno about Italian, but a good friend of mine is a Sikh. Ran an IT department
One of his favourite sayings when systems went down used to be "These systems were here long before I arrived - you'll be blaming me for the Black Hole of Calcutta next..." We all smiled.
Sadly, we've become way too rcailly defensive now.
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@Bones said in Black Lives Matter:
12? Jebus.
Actually don't have a problem with this - as long as the age of the boy is put into context.
It's when the police visit people at work and warn them to "check their thinking" for expressing a legitimate opinion on Twitter that it get's worrying.
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Wait...are they racist or just arseholes? Stop reporting on them doing nasty things to people and not citing the colour of these people, it's confusing and unfair!