Coronavirus - Overall
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
People are so scared of the yearly flu that the economy has been ruined. And people willingly wear masks (that likely do more harm than good)
How?
Because it stops a natural process. That is to remove CO2 (mask wearing breath in very high levels of CO2). And intake Oxygen (O2 level are low).
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
People are so scared of the yearly flu that the economy has been ruined. And people willingly wear masks (that likely do more harm than good)
How?
Because it stops a natural process. That is to remove CO2 (mask wearing breath in very high levels of CO2). And intake Oxygen (O2 level are low).
I keep reading this and no matter how I try to decipher it makes no sense.
Are you saying the mask stops air flow?
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
People are so scared of the yearly flu that the economy has been ruined. And people willingly wear masks (that likely do more harm than good)
How?
Because it stops a natural process. That is to remove CO2 (mask wearing breath in very high levels of CO2). And intake Oxygen (O2 level are low).
That's so kooky. I wear masks at work everyday. They stop droplets, they don't stop air particles đź¤. They only stop small particles like viruses for a few minutes but when they dampen from breath vapour it stops. I know I'm wasting my time explaining this
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Winger You are so funny in an injectable bleach kind of way. Covid19 is showing us what life used to be like before we had vaccines and medicines to combat serious diseases.
What, people sat around fretting that 80 and 90 year olds were dying?
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I can't work out how most of the world fits into these theories.
You know, those of us that look after our health without taking pills to combat pills giving all our hard earned to pharma yet also get vaccinated so we don't endanger ourselves and the vulnerable in society.
Besides if we don't give all our money to pharma we can spend it on 5G devices. -
@Winger said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Winger said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Kirwan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Winger What are your thoughts on Bill Gates?
I always liked Gates because Excel. Much better than Lotus 123. Also MS Dos was cheaper to own due to lower computer prices (half the price of IMB computers). So credit to Gates. Even though he got his start thanks to his mother and IBM. So without being born into an elite family he would be another unknown in the world.
But he was always came across as a strange nerdy type that was obsessed with money and control. And still is. He’s been very successful. But one big failure is giving money away (worth when he started $52 billion now $104 billion). Or is this just marketing hype. Where he claims to want to give his money away but doesn’t and is just using his foundation to reduce his tax bill. And to market himself as he sets up his next money making schemes (digital certificates and vaccines etc).
But credit to Gates. He has everything lined up to make a fortune. He invested in imperial college where they just happened to produce via Neil Ferguson the scary inflated estimated Coved 19 deaths that seemed to kick this all off. He is a big investor in WHO. Is mates and has invested in Dr Fauci etc. etc. etc. And his marketing team has done a brilliant job. His image has changed from a nerdy control freak who violated antitrust laws to a kind of world saviour.
One last point. He needs to choose his friends and foundation investors more carefully.
Was the last line an Epstein jab? Dodgy territory for a Trump fan.
But back to Gates, it’s true he’s increased his wealth but with like most things you see in black and white you are missing a bit of nuance.
His reported net wealth includes his charitable foundation for starters. They key point is that he has given away $50 billion to charities over the years. No matter how you cut it, that’s amazing. Also impressive is him convincing other billionaires to do the same.
His foundation is doing remarkable work, just looking at his vaccine work and halving child mortality in the last 15years, particularly in the third world.
Do you think he’s planning to microchip people?
Antivaxxers would not see his vaccine work as a good thing....
Facts don’t care about feelings.
The facts are that people who follow a more natural approach are often healthier than people who don't. And instead rely on big pharma and lots and lots and lots of pills and injections to make them right.
The 2nd fact is we have had vaccines and lots of big pharma drugs for many years now, Yet here we are. People are so scared of the yearly flu that the economy has been ruined. And people willingly wear masks (that likely do more harm than good) and want everyone else to do likewise and are afraid of getting too close to someone else(even their grandchildren for example) just in case. Its like a collective madness. Where people think we will only be saved by big pharma pill popping or injections.Maybe its time to try a different approach. Rather than even more and more pills (I have meet people who take pills to counter the side effects of other pills) and even more vaccines (compulsory vaccines won't stop at 1). It might be good for big pharma but I don't see overall a healthy population.
It's good to see that you're sticking to it being 'just the annual flu' Winger, and that masks are bad. You can't be happy that your old mate Trump has changed his mind on these this week. I'm sure he'll change it back next week though, so don't get too down about it.
Modern medicine, yet here we are. fuck me. -
this is an interesting little read: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200622-the-long-term-effects-of-covid-19-infection
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@JC said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Winger Straight question, no bullshit. Do you live in the USA?
I thought he/she is in London (or at least UK).
Polish?
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@Bones Yeah, that’s what I thought too. But when @Winger starts saying things like “ People are so scared of the yearly flu that the economy has been ruined. ”, I have to ask, whose people and whose economy are we talking about?
@Winger seems very invested in the USA, which is fine if he actually lives there. But if he doesn’t, conflating what happens there with the rest of the world is pretty dumb.
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@JC said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones Yeah, that’s what I thought too. But when @Winger starts saying things like “ People are so scared of the yearly flu that the economy has been ruined. ”, I have to ask, whose people and whose economy are we talking about?
@Winger seems very invested in the USA, which is fine if he actually lives there. But if he doesn’t, conflating what happens there with the rest of the world is pretty dumb.
I'm invested in the US because its key to where the West goes (but I currently not living in the UK, NZ or the US).
And in general the Wests economy has been ruined (some of the biggest companies has thrived though). Due to a yearly flu that's been hyped up by the elites with an agenda
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@Winger said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@JC said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones Yeah, that’s what I thought too. But when @Winger starts saying things like “ People are so scared of the yearly flu that the economy has been ruined. ”, I have to ask, whose people and whose economy are we talking about?
@Winger seems very invested in the USA, which is fine if he actually lives there. But if he doesn’t, conflating what happens there with the rest of the world is pretty dumb.
I'm invested in the US because its key to where the West goes (but I currently not living in the UK, NZ or the US).
And in general the Wests economy has been ruined (some of the biggest companies has thrived though). Due to a yearly flu that's been hyped up by the elites with an agenda
What's the agenda? Sell more respirators?
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Winger said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@JC said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@Bones Yeah, that’s what I thought too. But when @Winger starts saying things like “ People are so scared of the yearly flu that the economy has been ruined. ”, I have to ask, whose people and whose economy are we talking about?
@Winger seems very invested in the USA, which is fine if he actually lives there. But if he doesn’t, conflating what happens there with the rest of the world is pretty dumb.
I'm invested in the US because its key to where the West goes (but I currently not living in the UK, NZ or the US).
And in general the Wests economy has been ruined (some of the biggest companies has thrived though). Due to a yearly flu that's been hyped up by the elites with an agenda
What's the agenda? Sell more respirators?
Ah yes, the mysterious wealthy and powerful elites. From what I've been able to figure out so far, they make fortunes from renewable energy, but are not invested in coal or oil, and now I guess we can rule out airlines. Or actually, maybe this comes back to the renewables - they've made Covid up to stop the planes, which stops the av gas...
In all seriousness, why wouldn't the wealthy and powerful want to ruin the economy? Makes perfect sense. -
Spain's Covid-19 death toll could be 60% higher than official figure
Spain’s coronavirus death toll could be nearly 60% than the official total of 28,342, an investigation by Spanish daily newspaper El PaĂs has found.
The country’s official death toll includes people who were formally diagnosed with coronavirus, not suspected cases who were never tested.
A lack of widespread testing, particularly in the early stages of the outbreak, means the official count could underestimate the virus’ toll, like in many other countries.
By counting regional statistics of all suspected and confirmed fatalities from the virus, El Pais reached a total of 44,868 deaths. If accurate, that would make Spain’s outbreak the second deadliest in Europe after the UK.
Not huge news, I admit.