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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Press giving Bloomfield the grilling Cindy never gets.
He just said there has been no failure at the border
He said there were no PPE shortage issues. And it was proven that there were. So excuse me if I don't entirely believe him
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@canefan I think the wriggle there is that there were plenty of masks but they weren't getting to those that wanted them.
The Border was apparently not a failure because (paraphrasing) people were getting tested and its a moveable feast with constant improvements. He was asked why he doesn't consider it a failure when the Minister has apologised for the failure and replied "I don't think he used that word".
He was also asked how it was that MoH had two months to set up regular testing but didn't and now it has taken 72 hours to get it in place. From his answers it sounds like @Godder was right - lots of "working with Unions"....
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
He was asked why he doesn't consider it a failure when the Minister has apologised for the failure and replied "I don't think he used that word".
Can't help but wonder what the correct word is...
"Fuck up" could work.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan I think the wriggle there is that there were plenty of masks but they weren't getting to those that wanted them.
The Border was apparently not a failure because (paraphrasing) people were getting tested and its a moveable feast with constant improvements. He was asked why he doesn't consider it a failure when the Minister has apologised for the failure and replied "I don't think he used that word".
He was also asked how it was that MoH had two months to set up regular testing but didn't and now it has taken 72 hours to get it in place. From his answers it sounds like @Godder was right - lots of "working with Unions"....
Bank CEO: How's the new app going?
CTO: Brilliant, we're rolling it out today
CEO: That's impressive. Top work
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Next day
Bank Head of Marketing: Jesus we are getting flayed on Facebook about the app. How did it get past testing?
CTO: We didn't test it. We just rolled it out. Our customers will let us know about the faults. It's a moveable feast with constant improvements.
Marketing: But why? People have lost their savings! Our reputation is rooted!
CTO: I needed to be able to tell everyone we had something up and running. We can blame the users for slack security. ANZ wouldn't have done any better. -
the border was always a clusterfuck waiting to happen, I thnk they are pretty naive to think they can keep it out and test all those crossing it as well as isolate and quarantine.
Too many people either cant be tested as often as they need or be isolated/quarantined.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
the border was always a clusterfuck waiting to happen, I thnk they are pretty naive to think they can keep it out and test all those crossing it as well as isolate and quarantine.
Too many people either cant be tested as often as they need or be isolated/quarantined.
The narrative they push is certainly good for morale, and votes. Until it all hits the fan of course...
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@Godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
That and you can test as much as you want, but if there's a false negative on the last test, they get through.
yep - so you need to have the false negative, and be asymptomatic, and still be contagious. You can't catch those bastards.
Given the rate of positives in incoming folk, though, it's pretty unlikely.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
the border was always a clusterfuck waiting to happen, I thnk they are pretty naive to think they can keep it out and test all those crossing it as well as isolate and quarantine.
Too many people either cant be tested as often as they need or be isolated/quarantined.
The narrative they push is certainly good for morale, and votes. Until it all hits the fan of course...
It doesn't hurt votes. Delivery has never mattered where PM Ardern is concerned, the comms are all that matter.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
There has been a nuanced move away from eradication by Cindy:
Akl can move to Lvl 2 even if we are seeing new cases
We can hold an election at Lvl 2 - or even if some areas are at Lvl 3
A nuanced moved that would've been handy a week ago.
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@antipodean Oh no you don't
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What I find interesting, is during our 'peak' in early April, we were knocking out 3,000-6,000 tests a day, with more tests in the past 4 days than we had done in total, through to 20 APril, again, at our 'peak'
Daily numbers still seem reasonable given the volume of testing.
Have any of the people who test positive in Managed Isolation been hospitalised yet?
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@taniwharugby all those in hospital are from the cluster
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