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    plenty of time with both boats off thier foils out there, but Luna Rossa took it comfortably, although were a couple of lead changes on leg 2 of 4

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    So Team USA 0/3 and Ineos 3/3.

    Alot of floating about in the races today.

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    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    Alot of floating about in the races today.

    Was quite amusing. In the effort to get back up on the foils they had zero or even negative VMG at times. Unless they can create an apparent wind they are tubs. Still think they are cool though.

    Six knots wind speed seems to have been set a bit low for "racing".

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    @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    Alot of floating about in the races today.

    Was quite amusing. In the effort to get back up on the foils they had zero or even negative VMG at times. Unless they can create an apparent wind they are tubs. Still think they are cool though.

    Six knots wind speed seems to have been set a bit low for "racing".

    Sounds like the AC in Fremantle, with 12m yachts when the winds weren't in

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    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

    @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    Alot of floating about in the races today.

    Was quite amusing. In the effort to get back up on the foils they had zero or even negative VMG at times. Unless they can create an apparent wind they are tubs. Still think they are cool though.

    Six knots wind speed seems to have been set a bit low for "racing".

    Sounds like the AC in Fremantle, with 12m yachts when the winds weren't in

    A bit different really, due to the foiling aspect. These things are basically stationary as displacement boats, until they can achieve enough power to foil then they are rocket ships. The 12m didn't have that range of speed. These things are on or off, 12m were pretty conventional, finding an extra 3kts of pressure was good, but not give you another 30 kts. The percentage comparison is enormous.

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    @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

    @Snowy said in Americas Cup:

    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    Alot of floating about in the races today.

    Was quite amusing. In the effort to get back up on the foils they had zero or even negative VMG at times. Unless they can create an apparent wind they are tubs. Still think they are cool though.

    Six knots wind speed seems to have been set a bit low for "racing".

    Sounds like the AC in Fremantle, with 12m yachts when the winds weren't in

    A bit different really, due to the foiling aspect. These things are basically stationary as displacement boats, until they can achieve enough power to foil then they are rocket ships. The 12m didn't have that range of speed. These things are on or off, 12m were pretty conventional, finding an extra 3kts of pressure was good, but not give you another 30 kts. The percentage comparison is enormous.

    I was just joking about the slow pace in light or no wind

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    @canefan said in Americas Cup:

    I was just joking about the slow pace in light or no wind

    They were slow for sure. These are drift wood.

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    Critical factor seems to be the windspeed required to get up. Reduce that by even a little and you will get a jump.
    If light winds aren't a factor then it is sailing ability and boat speed.
    Have to admit that Ainslie looks to be the top skipper at the starts.

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    @Crucial said in Americas Cup:

    Critical factor seems to be the windspeed required to get up. Reduce that by even a little and you will get a jump.
    If light winds aren't a factor then it is sailing ability and boat speed.
    Have to admit that Ainslie looks to be the top skipper at the starts.

    Yeah that was what I was getting at with the 6 kt limit. Maybe our design guys reckon we can do that and that is why it was set there. Maybe Prada do too as challenger of record.

    We haven't seen any races up to 20kt yet I don't think, so hard to say about comment two. Sailing ability comes into all conditions really and boat speed will depend on foil design for lighter or heavier air. Instability at really high speeds, risk of capsize, cartwheel, pitch pole against a displacement "race". These things have a tiny skeg (rather than keel) which the foils have to act as, otherwise they can just go sideways in light air.

    Ainslie definitely the gun at the start.

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    #519

    that was a crazy end to that leg!!

    And now race abandoned, due to a big wind shift?

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    @taniwharugby amazing. Can't remember such a massive shift... Sailing away from the marks is weird

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    So Team GB are the real deal, both boats moving in excess of 40kn (think top I saw was 43kn) in this one and the one that was abandoned earlier.

    Team USA now the lame duck with no wins yet.

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    @taniwharugby said in Americas Cup:

    So Team GB are the real deal, both boats moving in excess of 40kn (think top I saw was 43kn) in this one and the one that was abandoned earlier.

    Team USA now the lame duck with no wins yet.

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    Poor Deano

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    @canefan they just went 48 knots and are leading Luna Ross's by half a minute

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    Massive capsize for American magic... Remarkable to see

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    @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

    Massive capsize for American magic... Remarkable to see

    Its the Dean curse

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    Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell

    bf657898-0260-4b5d-9dcc-e0f2ef69bafc-image.png

    Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'! 😉

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    @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

    Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell

    bf657898-0260-4b5d-9dcc-e0f2ef69bafc-image.png

    Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'! 😉

    Risky, but sounds like the leeward runner not being trimmed was the problem.

    Boat sinking now it seems,a full rescue job. Hull cracked when landing on the foil perhaps?

    Why you'd cut the coverage off I have no idea

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    @nzzp thought Luna Rossa was lucky not to have a capsize or do damage at the end of that leg just prior to abandonment, looked like they turned the rudder just as they got a bit of air and came down slightly sideways

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    @nzzp said in Americas Cup:

    @Machpants said in Americas Cup:

    Do you think 'Kyle' was being clever, or is just a dipshit that cannot spell

    bf657898-0260-4b5d-9dcc-e0f2ef69bafc-image.png

    Cos I think you'll find that it was 'wreckful'! 😉

    Risky, but sounds like the leeward runner not being trimmed was the problem.

    Boat sinking now it seems,a full rescue job. Hull cracked when landing on the foil perhaps?

    Why you'd cut the coverage off I have no idea

    Coutts owns the IP for sinking boats.

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