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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
@dogmeat oh I wasnt sympathising with him, just more the glaring issues with the rates structure
Yes, rates structure is the issue. Charge more rates for "free" rubbish collection and infra structure (water both waste and town supply) in places that actually have it.
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@taniwharugby I pay for my water separately from my rates. TBH I think a lot of @Snowy 's rates issue are because of the legacy councils. The supercalifragilisticexpialidocious city hasn't really consolidated a lot of the systems it inherited from its predecessors.
How much sympathy does a fava bean eating, chianti swilling, serial killer really deserve?
Ignoring the trivial comment at the end. Sense of humour failure today.
Yes, it is about legacy councils. When Rodney got "absorbed" we ended up paying the same as everybody else without the infrastructure. Roading being the worst.
I was seriously pissed off at Greenlane road being done a couple of years ago so that the people of Remuera could have a smooth journey. There was nothing wrong with it and unsealed, or at least bad, roads are the norm round here.
The irony is they are all up here now on holiday at Omaha and Mangawhai driving on our crap ones. Maybe that is what will change things.
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@Snowy You do have my sympathy but where do you start it's a Gordian knot with nary an Alexander in sight.
Too much of AT's budget goes on greenfield development - but if developers were asked to provide more of the true cost of infrastructure house prices would climb even more sharply. AT announced fare increases yesterday of up to 10% because they have a revenue hole but (even by their own optimistic modelling) this will result in 700K fewer PT trips p.a.
IMO the problem's with central govt. Why are motorways fully centrally funded but Akl has to stump up for 50% of the cost of CRL? Which has bloody near bankrupted Council and means a whole host of other projects are on hold. Meanwhile a vanity project like Skypath will cost hundreds of millions?
I realise it doesn't help but urban roads are also being neglected. Within 200 metres of my front door are two potholes at least 500 mm in diameter
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@dogmeat Can't really argue with any of that.
Yes developers should be paying for infrastructure. They did a greenfield development further down our road and the runoff from the road they created (due to poor drainage planning) created a canyon across the council road, it was almost impassable. The council has now sealed up to their road, which I am grateful for, to fix the issues the developers created.
Yes all of our roads should be NZTA not Auckland transport. They are part of our national economy. Couriers won't even come to our place as the road is so bad. They leave packages at the local petrol station.
I can kind of understand the CRL cost to council, as it isn't part of a national network as such, which the motorways are, and yes Skypath seems daft. Get on a bus for 5 minutes with your bike FFS.
Yes I have noticed urban roads are deteriorating too, our potholes are more like tank traps in places. There is "whinge" online thing at council for roads and they show up eventually to "fix" potholes, albeit temporarily because they are drainage related, you can't just fill them in. They come back.
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@Snowy said in NZ Politics:
Yes developers should be paying for infrastructure.
dont they?
It is my understanding that they pay for the infrastructure in new developments, but the Council takes over the management/maintenance of it, surely not something again individual councils do differently?
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
@Snowy said in NZ Politics:
Yes developers should be paying for infrastructure.
dont they?
It is my understanding that they pay for the infrastructure in new developments, but the Council takes over the management/maintenance of it, surely not something again individual councils do differently?
Some of I think. Depends on the development and how it connects to council owned.
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@taniwharugby In Akl they pay a development levy but it is, apparently, nowhere near the true cost of providing the necessary infrastructure.
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@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
@taniwharugby In Akl they pay a development levy but it is, apparently, nowhere near the true cost of providing the necessary infrastructure.
... and brown field development is crazy expensive as well. Not only do you have the cost of upgrading existing infrastructure (eyewatering), but in NZ any 3+ level gets into massively expensive seismic design issues.
Bottom line is building is expensive here for lots of reasons
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@dogmeat yeah I know they pay development contributions, which is based on how many extra people it adds to the community, more vehicle movements, contribution to public amenities etc, but in most cases I think they pay for the roading, drainage, connections etc, and then council maintain them.
Although on the larger developments, I think thats where they do al the infrastructure, but pay less on development contributions (been a while since I was at the Council)
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All that time effort and money, the result is the same
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More on Mallard
Hopefully he goes
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@blackeyeagain said in NZ Politics:
More on Mallard
Hopefully he goes
Just saw the speech on parliament about this, what a scumbag.
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@kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@blackeyeagain said in NZ Politics:
More on Mallard
Hopefully he goes
Just saw the speech on parliament about this, what a scumbag.
He's been a bully boy for years
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