Reshuffling the All Blacks backline
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<p>So we're going to move the best Fullback in the world from the team pattern of the best team in the world because?</p>
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<p>Oh yeah because we don't have another winger in all of NZ</p>
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<p>strewth</p>
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<p>Should we just bring back Caleb Ralph then</p>
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<p>Rather an underdone wing than an underdone fullback</p> -
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<p>I think we are likely to see this..</p>
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<p>9. A. Smith<br>
10. A. Cruden<br>
11. J Savea<br>
12. C. Ngatai <br>
13. M. Fekitoa<br>
14. W. Naholo<br>
15. B. Smith<br><br>
21. T. Kerr-Barlow<br>
22. R. Crotty<br>
23. B. Barrett</p>
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<p>With extra squad members</p>
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<p>L. Sopoaga</p>
<p>D. McKenzie</p>
<p>G Moala</p>
<p>TJP</p>
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<p>Yeah maybe swap Crotty for Charlie because the Zoo seem to place a lot of emphasis on experience and leadership.</p>
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<p>Crotty has been in the AB environment a fair bit and another "experienced" voice in the backline would be a sound move.</p>
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<p>Especially for the first test where we have had a habit of playing very much under par</p> -
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<p>So we're going to <strong>move the best Fullback in the world from the team pattern of the best team in the world because</strong>?</p>
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<p>Oh yeah because we don't have another winger in all of NZ</p>
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<p>strewth</p>
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<p>Should we just bring back Caleb Ralph then</p>
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<p>Rather an underdone wing than an underdone fullback</p>
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<p>The ABs have basically been doing that for the last 12-18 months....</p> -
<p>obvious troll is obvious</p>
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<p>This "Crotty has more leadership" is some fucking bullshit you racist fucks. It's pretty clear from watching the Chiefs Ngatai has a huge say in how their game plays, and is often the one settling it down when a few of our more excitable players take it too far. While i expect Crotty to also be in the, i don't see him taking in too much more collateral than Ngatai given their last 18 months of rugby. </p> -
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<p>The ABs have basically been doing that for the last 12-18 months....</p>
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<p>No they haven't</p>
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<p>Ben Smith has been the starting 15. Sure tactical changes later in the game have been applied but not to the 1stXV</p> -
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<p>obvious troll is obvious</p>
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<p>This "Crotty has more leadership" is some fucking bullshit you racist fucks. It's pretty clear from watching the Chiefs Ngatai has a huge say in how their game plays, and is often the one settling it down when a few of our more excitable players take it too far. While i expect Crotty to also be in the, i don't see him taking in too much more collateral than Ngatai given their last 18 months of rugby. </p>
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<p>Fair enough but Crotty has far more AB experience than Ngatai- it's not unreasonable to assume that this could be a deciding factor when selecting the run on team for the first game of a season</p> -
I'm going to throw Macilai 's name into the hat. I think he has looked very good so far this season<br><br><br>
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<p>I'm going to throw Macilai 's name into the hat. I think he has looked very good so far this season<br><br><br>
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<p>He's been OK. far from All Black standard though.</p> -
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<p>obvious troll is obvious</p>
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<p>This "Crotty has more leadership" is some fucking bullshit you racist fucks. It's pretty clear from watching the Chiefs Ngatai has a huge say in how their game plays, and is often the one settling it down when a few of our more excitable players take it too far. While i expect Crotty to also be in the, i don't see him taking in too much more collateral than Ngatai given their last 18 months of rugby. </p>
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<p>Ahh fuck it, I'm on holiday, I'm going in</p>
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<p>"Hey Mariner, it's Shag here. Look I've got all this performance data and a fair bit of experience working with Crotty, but to tell you truth, we're still undecided about him or Ngatai. Have you seen anything on your TV 4000 miles away that will convince us to pick Ngatai. We need some lip reading or all those times when he's the one settling down the more excitable players. It's pretty clear he does this often, but we need that verified. We need to come up with something else we be branded racists. NZ rugby needs you Mariner....Please call me back when you get this message"</p>
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The Fekitoa/Crotty starting combination has looked the goods when they've started and finished tests. If both are fit I think they may give it more time. <br><br>
No doubt Ngatai is playing well and should be there or thereabouts as well. <br><br>
Siam - it's a deliberate tactic by the coaches to have Barrett at fullback Smith at wing for at least the last 25 minutes. They seem to do alright so while there are injuries it's hardly extraordinary to think they could start together. <br><br>
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<p>Moala played right wing against Samoa and went pretty well considering it was his first test and a bit of wacky test (first test of the year, a lot of regulars unavailable due to Super rugby final etc) - I think he'll be an option. </p>
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<p>Yep, as I mentioned in my post earlier in the thread I think he has the inside running if NMS and Naholo are both out.</p> -
Hopefully Tony pulu can get a run of games for Chiefs as I've always really rated him. <br><br><br>
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<p>The Fekitoa/Crotty starting combination has looked the goods when they've started and finished tests. If both are fit I think they may give it more time.<br><br>
No doubt Ngatai is playing well and should be there or thereabouts as well.<br><br>
Siam - it's a deliberate tactic by the coaches to have Barrett at fullback Smith at wing for at least the last 25 minutes. They seem to do alright so while there are injuries it's hardly extraordinary to think they could start together.<br><br>
But I see some picking Naholo, is he going to be available?</p>
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<p>Yeah I know what you mean about the Barrett/Smith move. I think the overriding premise is to start with Smith at FB though, and earn the right to open the game up in the last 20. I think the pattern demonstrates that Smith starts at FB and I can't see that changing, if for no other reason than he diffuses defensive situations (bombs and kicks) better in the first hour than anyone else.</p> -
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<p>Ahh fuck it, I'm on holiday, I'm going in</p>
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<p>"Hey Mariner, it's Shag here. Look I've got all this performance data and a fair bit of experience working with Crotty, but to tell you truth, we're still undecided about him or Ngatai. Have you seen anything on your TV 4000 miles away that will convince us to pick Ngatai. <strong>We need some lip reading or all those times when he's the one settling down the more excitable players. It's pretty clear he does this often, but we need that verified</strong>. We need to come up with something else we be branded racists. NZ rugby needs you Mariner....Please call me back when you get this message"</p>
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<p>call me racialist... ;)</p>
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<p>Can Maoris actually do this ? shit, I thought they were just dumb but explosive power athletes like all the other islanders.......</p> -
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<p>Yep, as I mentioned in my post earlier in the thread I think he has the inside running if NMS and Naholo are both out.</p>
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<p>Yep - he'll also be a handy bench option as he can play 12, 13 (at a pinch) and both wings, especially if you've got a Barrett/Mckenzie on the bench who can cover 10/15. 13 not such a big issue if you've got a 12 who can cover 13 (such as Fekitoa, Crotty or Ngatai) or even Ben Smith has been serviceable at 13 (I know I know, fullback to centre issue).</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="568045" data-time="1459217352"><p>Fair enough but Crotty has far more AB experience than Ngatai- it's not unreasonable to assume that this could be a deciding factor when selecting the run on team for the first game of a season</p></blockquote><br>It's not unreasonable to point out the All Blacks haven't been shy in giving newbies an opportunity.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Siam" data-cid="568045" data-time="1459217352"><p>Fair enough but Crotty has far more AB experience than Ngatai- it's not unreasonable to assume that this could be a deciding factor when selecting the run on team for the first game of a season</p></blockquote>
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Yep, but Ngatai has been captaining the AB Maori team (and Taranaki?)<br><br>
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<p>Ahh fuck it, I'm on holiday, I'm going in</p>
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<p>"Hey Mariner, it's Shag here. Look I've got all this performance data and a fair bit of experience working with Crotty, but to tell you truth, we're still undecided about him or Ngatai. Have you seen anything on your TV 4000 miles away that will convince us to pick Ngatai. We need some lip reading or all those times when he's the one settling down the more excitable players. It's pretty clear he does this often, but we need that verified. We need to come up with something else we be branded racists. NZ rugby needs you Mariner....Please call me back when you get this message"</p>
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<p>call me racialist... ;)</p>
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<p>It's about fucking time Shag.</p> -
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<p>It's not unreasonable to point out the All Blacks haven't been shy in giving newbies an opportunity.</p>
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<p>Sure, as individuals. I'd say the pattern is to surround debutants with experienced players</p>
