Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@canefan I really hope we don't fritter that away as we come out of this mess. We all want to get back to normal, but I'm hoping our new normal has a bit more connectedness and empathy built into it (Dreaming!).
Then again a few years down the line, barring zombies or aliens or whatever the fuck is up next, this will be a crazy and shitty memory and life will truck on.
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@paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan I really hope we don't fritter that away as we come out of this mess. We all want to get back to normal, but I'm hoping our new normal has a bit more connectedness and empathy built into it (Dreaming!).
Then again a few years down the line, barring zombies or aliens or whatever the fuck is up next, this will be a crazy and shitty memory and life will truck on.
This is the third of these type of viruses during my professional life. SARS, MERS, now this. The other two aren't as memorable to us because they couldn't spread as well, but this has happened every 8 years or so. The big question is, what will we learn from all of this and how will we prepare for next time? The cynic in me says there will be lots of back slapping and handshakes all round. And the next time we will be as underprepared as before, once the appetite to be ready wanes
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan I wonder if they are able to anticipate/predict mutations to help with the vaccines?
They have plenty of examples to study to see how the virus is changing and adapting to learn from?
I'm not sure. I was thinking about border management and detection protocols among other things. Would we be as efficient as Taiwan who wheeled out all their SARS era scanning gear and systems when covid showed up? I'm not convinced
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It's a curious feeling this morning...
- I do not want any more community cases of Covid
- There was an urgent Saturday 9pm press conference, Auckland went straight to level 3, and it has been event and sporting carnage elsewhere. So where are the community cases then? (But obviously loop back to 1.)
Perhaps Cabinet & the Ministry of Health need to go through the gears in sequence in Auckland, not jump them?
1pm today will be instructive.
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@donsteppa Given the places the guy had been too while symptomatic I don't think the govt had any choice but to go back to L3. They would have been very reluctant to as it was a golden opportunity for National.
Today and tomorrow are the critical ones given the likely gestation of any cases. Isn't today the day the gym contacts were told to get tested? Fingers crossed.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@donsteppa Given the places the guy had been too while symptomatic I don't think the govt had any choice but to go back to L3. They would have been very reluctant to as it was a golden opportunity for National.
Today and tomorrow are the critical ones given the likely gestation of any cases. Isn't today the day the gym contacts were told to get tested? Fingers crossed.
Yep, I was trying to re-find that article yesterday. I'm sure I saw something that the gym contacts weren't to be tested until at least Wednesday, but I couldn't find it on the Herald site again.
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@donsteppa but the reason it jumped was because they couldnt link it, because that other case lied.
Bloomfield said yesterday and today were crunch days, why would these people identified form last Monday or Tuesday not get tested until today or tomorrow?
Seriously? If it was me, I'd have been down the testing station the moment I knew I was a close contact.
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Here it is (article published on the 2nd): Covid-19 coronavirus: The people who hold the key out of lockdown won't be tested until tomorrow
When I couldn't find it again I wondered if I'd imagined it
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@donsteppa shit, I didnt realise it was Friday this guy was at the gym last, thought it was like Tuesday/Wednesday!
Crazy shit!
So in theory they all get tested yesterday, surely MOH push those through as urgent tests so results come today, to add to the new set of locations and contacts if any test positive?
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@donsteppa shit, I didnt realise it was Friday this guy was at the gym last, thought it was like Tuesday/Wednesday!
Crazy shit!
So in theory they all get tested yesterday, surely MOH push those through as urgent tests so results come today, to add to the new set of locations and contacts if any test positive?
I guess so, 1pm looks like being a fairly significant press conference to find out where things are at.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@donsteppa but the reason it jumped was because they couldnt link it, because that other case lied.
Bloomfield said yesterday and today were crunch days, why would these people identified form last Monday or Tuesday not get tested until today or tomorrow?
Seriously? If it was me, I'd have been down the testing station the moment I knew I was a close contact.
At our clinic some casual contacts rolled up days too early and even if they got tested were told to return for the second test at the optimal time
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@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
It's all down to insurance purposes. Basically a chain. They can't get insurance which means airlines won't allow them to fly (not SOP, Covid terms apparently). The reason they can't get insurance is due to official government guidance combined with their age & conditions etc.
Definitely not SOP as you say, and a bit strange to be honest. If you want to do anything in life without insurance you carry the risk - that's SOP for airlines and in the conditions of travel / cancellation policies, so quite surprising that they have changed that when they had it sorted anyway.
Air NZ have even offered their own insurance with covid cover.
"Eligibility
Policyholder must be a New Zealand citizen or resident.
Travel must originate in New Zealand."Is it just cost that is the issue, not that it can't be done?
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Thats great. One less person in the queue. Good luck leaving her safety in God's hands. The only bad thing is that the innocent suckers that follow her and her shitbag husband will likely do the same. But stupid is as stupid does
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I have no qualms in saying the Tamakis are evil
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I have no problems with anyone refusing the vaccine.
Only need about 80% I guess for herd immunity.
It's not like the measles refusers, who put everyones babies at risk, as well as their own, in that time period between birth and the age they can get the vaccine.
It takes all sorts in this world, this isn't a biggie.
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No new cases in the community today, 6 in MIQ...