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<p>Never seen that done before but eager to give that a hoon. Looks like it would be beneficial. Here's a vid I'm doing four times a week that even in a short period has worked fucken wonders for flexibility.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.fitnessblender.com/videos/lower-body-stretches-a-stretching-routine-for-flexibility'>https://www.fitnessblender.com/videos/lower-body-stretches-a-stretching-routine-for-flexibility</a></p>
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<p>I do it in the morning before my coffee, you feel like a bit of a tool doing it but fuck it, once you get over that the benefits are great.</p>
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<p>I do about 2/3rds of that stuff before any leg workout. It's excellent stuff. Brad Thorn knew the value of mobility and stretching, playing top level rugby at 40 is a pretty good indicator that it works!</p> -
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<p><span><span>We're all either at ( TR ) or getting to ( yours truly, JK and Paeks ) that age where shit starts seizing up so I can't speak highly enough of the vid above. </span></span></p>
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<p>piss off rookie, reckon I'd be fitter than you ;)</p>
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<p>TBF I've never really had issues with seizing up or anything, my flexibility has never been great, and it is currently not much different to what it was when I was playing rugby in my 20s and very early 30s.</p> -
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<p>piss off rookie, reckon I'd be fitter than you ;)</p>
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<p>TBF I've never really had issues with seizing up or anything, my flexibility has never been great, and it is currently not much different to what it was when I was playing rugby in my 20s and very early 30s.</p>
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<p>Cardio wise I reckon I'm decent, I get good workouts the moment I step out the door to walk anywhere which is good, I detest running with a passion but when I did do it it was good conditioning for the legs that's for sure.</p> -
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<p><strong>Cardio wise I reckon I'm decent, I get good workouts the moment</strong> I step out the door to walk anywhere which is good, I detest running with a passion but when I did do it it was good conditioning for the legs that's for sure.</p>
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<p>I wasn't sure how the bolded part was going to continue!! New lady friend...ahem...</p> -
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<p>I wasn't sure how the bolded part was going to continue!! New lady friend...ahem...</p>
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<p>I get put through the fucken ringer whenever I see her.</p>
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<p>was chatting to a guy that played 6 & 7 for Northland about 5+ years back, is about 38 now and still playing senior rugby, ran his first marathon last weekend, and did it 3:20, which I thought was pretty good. Still has a flanker shape, so didnt slim down, but he was telling me how much training he did for it, and made me think while the run I have in 4 weeks is only 21km, I am not doing nearly enough! </p>
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<p>So have done 2 6km runs this week, lucky enough to spend the day at the beach with my daughters class doing Waka-Ama and Stand Up Paddle boarding, which is farking awkward first time out (which I did 2 weeks back) but once I got the hang of it, was pretty good, great work out to be sure ;)</p> -
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<p>93kg this morning</p>
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<p>92.3kg this morning, which isn't bad given I have eaten mostly what I wanted plus been trying a few bottles of my latest home brew this week too...</p> -
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<p>92.3kg this morning, which isn't bad given I have eaten mostly what I wanted plus been trying a few bottles of my latest home brew this week too...</p>
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<p>no change this week at weigh in on Friday, enjoying my home brew quite a bit!</p>
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<p>Have picked up the running, ran 6.5km on Thursday, 7.5km Saturday and just did 8.5km before lunch, in the days in between been doing other workout stuff too, at the beach yesterday on the paddle board and doing bombs off a bridge! </p>
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<p>went for a trail run last night, with a few insane hills, and I did a bit over 7km, in 48 mins, which gave me a bit under 7mins per km, which included a fair amount of walking!</p>
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<p>When on the treadmill, I run for 45mins at speed 9-10 which feels pretty decent pace (I reckon about 5.30mins per km) yet it tells me I have only done 7.5km which is about 6.30 mins per km</p>
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<p>Anyway, what else my run told me last night (running with a dude that runs 100+km each week and another that does all sorts of extreme running events - luckily yesterday was on a 'easy' day for them) is that my 21km run in a fortnight is gonna be super brutal, and I am wee bit worried, although as one of the guys has done the trail I'll be doing said, as long as I go in knowing that I should, and will walk sections, knowing the climbs are gonna be brutal, I'll be fine, it is the people that will go into the 21km run expecting to smash it in under 3 or so hours that will come unstuck.</p>
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<p>Given I've never run further than 12km before, I knew this was gonna be a big challenge, which is what I wanted, but guess had I known the challenge would be this big, I'd of upped the ante earlier...</p>
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<p>Gonna go do a 2 hour trail run/walk this weekend just to be out there hammering myself for an extended period.</p> -
<p>Good to hear you've got some expert advice on hand. There is a guy at the gym who we yarn to from time to time. He's ex Army and loves trail running and endurance events. He said something about technique for the hills/climbs, like better to walk up with shorter steps than try big lunges or to jog up them... or something like that. Basically conserve your energy and be as efficient as possible!! </p>
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<p>So your mates point about knowing you'll walk some parts is on point. Good luck bro, get a few more Km's under your belt and we'll arrange for a defibrillator to be at the finish line for ya :whistle:</p> -
<p>apparently there is a section that pretty much rises from the beach to about 476m metres in couple of sections of stairs....is amusing that on the map it says about admiring the view form the top - yeah right, I am sure I'll have blurred vision and be seeing stars!</p>
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<p>yeah I've done lots of trails with steps, and they are hard work, although these ones are apparently uniform height/depth which is better than some of the trails I do where steps are different height/depth making it impossible to get a rhythm going; both these guys were also telling me that you take your time walking up, but you make your gains on the flat or downhills, whereas some of the idiots will push too hard going up.</p>
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<p>Good work pal, your dedication is quite something. There are so many compelling pros and cons on running it's really hard to know what to believe, I guess my personal view is that if it feels right then fill your boots, needless to say I've thought of every excuse not to do it on a regular basis. Even a good mate of mine who was nationally ranked in Cross Country has given up to focus on cycling, my old man who used to run every day chooses to swim every day instead ( Pretty inspirational for someone who turned 72 today ) so I guess from their experience I'll say to listen to your body. One never looks ones best at the end of a run that's for fucken sure.....</p>
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I've never had issues with running, plus I prefer trail running to road running which is slightly easier on the body too.
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<p>went for a big trail run/walk this morning...13.45km.</p>
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<p>I went up the mountain twice, one at an hour, and then the 2nd time at about 1.40 and OMG that 2nd tiem was rough!! </p>
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<p>I was just running to be out there for a decent period, not concerned about pace or distance, although TBH, pretty happy with the distance I covered given the terrain and climbs.</p>
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<p>My 10th km was my quickest.</p>
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<p>7:49 -- 7'49"/KM</p>
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<p>14:45 <span style="color:rgb(160,226,89);">- 0:53 (11%)</span> 6'56"/KM</p>
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<p>23:11 <span style="color:rgb(248,121,86);">+ 1:30 (-22%)</span> 8'26"/KM</p>
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<p>32:02 <span style="color:rgb(248,121,86);">+ 0:25 (-5%)</span> 8'51"/KM</p>
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<p>41:08 <span style="color:rgb(248,121,86);">+ 0:15 (-3%)</span> 9'06"/KM</p>
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<p>49:48 <span style="color:rgb(160,226,89);">- 0:26 (4%)</span> 8'40"/KM</p>
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<p>1:00:19 <span style="color:rgb(248,121,86);">+ 1:51 (-22%)</span> 10'31"/KM</p>
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<p>1:08:46 <span style="color:rgb(160,226,89);">- 2:04 (19%)</span> 8'27"/KM</p>
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<div style="margin:0px;">1:15:35 <span style="color:rgb(160,226,89);">- 1:38 (19%)</span> 6'49"/KM</div>
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<p>1:23:05 <span style="color:rgb(248,121,86);">+ 0:41 (-11%)</span> 7'30"/KM</p>
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<p>1:34:20 <span style="color:rgb(248,121,86);">+ 3:45 (-50%)</span> 11'15"/KM</p>
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<p>1:48:35 <span style="color:rgb(248,121,86);">+ 3:00 (-27%)</span> 14'15"/KM</p>
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<p>ha, I get home and the MIssus is like, we (us and our neighbours) are all going for a walk round the Hatea Loop (4.2km) with husbands included in the 'we' </p>
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<p>Obviously I didnt wanna go, but thought I would for the social aspect as we usually have a coffee after in the Town Basin...ended up being the only male...get home, sweating again.</p>
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<p>At this point I'm looking at my lawns that havent been mowed for a few weeks (combination of rain, sunshine, breaking a part on my mower) so off I go, 2 hours later the lawns looking good again...</p>
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<p>Not sure I'm gonna hit my 90kg weight target by my run next Saturday, but I'll go close.</p>
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<p>Problem is as I've upped my time running (treadmill and trail) my body has been craving more fuel, in particular milk...every day craving pints of cold milk at present. </p>
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<p>Have done 42km in the past 8 days (considerable increase from about 6-7km a week 3 or 4 weeks back) will go for a harder hill/trail climb on Saturday and probably 3 6km+ treadmill runs during the week leaving Thursday and Friday off for my run on Saturday.</p>
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<p>My biggest issue will be come run day, ensuring I am empty prior to the run, so might take a mild lax on Friday morning... :shock:</p> -
<p>Excellent posts lately, keep up the hill work. Although I disagree about the climbing,since i have extensive experience doing hill workouts. It's possible to bust your gut from bottom to top of a mountain, then just keep going at full pace. Taking it slow up a hill is pointless, and loses a lot of time. Just do regular 3-4 hour hill workouts, and get fitter.</p>
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<p>However, one note-do 1 step at a time, or you will put too much stress on your knees, like me, and I got a spur. Good news, I climbed 5 flights of steps in a building today at full pace with no feeling in my knee. It's never going to be perfect, but after many months it's getting better.</p> -
<p>missed my goal weight of 90kg (91kg this morning) although I suspect after my run tomorrow I'll be under 90kg</p>
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<p>Weather forecast had been shite, but is looking much better, gonna be 21/22...kinda looking forward to it :)</p> -
<p>Good luck bro - stick to your plan and have fun!!</p>
