Auckland Rugby 2021
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@nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@crucial yep - lost the changing room, lost credibility in the eyes of the players. They probably would have done the 3-peat if the coaching was better!
Bit harsh for players to blame the coach that gets them into the final. They may have opinions on selection or gameplans but .....?
Something more than just that happening here.
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@crucial said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@crucial yep - lost the changing room, lost credibility in the eyes of the players. They probably would have done the 3-peat if the coaching was better!
Bit harsh for players to blame the coach that gets them into the final. They may have opinions on selection or gameplans but .....?
Something more than just that happening here.
Yeah, the record is clearly not the problem. A win, a loss in the semis to the eventual winners and a close loss in a final. Not terrible results.
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@crucial Yep. Definitley more than just that. Apparently he did little coaching just 'oversaw' and even thats being generous. Turn up to training unprepared and just go off the cuff, lacking coaching IQ for that level. Dan Bowden pretty much looked after the backs & attack/strikes. I remember seeing the halftime shots of the Akl change room in the semi against Waikato. Akl behind on the scoreboard in the premiership final - and its Dan Bowden who has the whiteboard up and pumping up the backs - Ieremia standing behind him looking rather awkward and out of place lol. Some personal things happened too in which the players lost respect for him as a person.
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@nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@crucial Yep. Definitley more than just that. Apparently he did little coaching just 'oversaw' and even thats being generous. Turn up to training unprepared and just go off the cuff, lacking coaching IQ for that level. Dan Bowden pretty much looked after the backs & attack/strikes. I remember seeing the halftime shots of the Akl change room in the semi against Waikato. Akl behind on the scoreboard in the premiership final - and its Dan Bowden who has the whiteboard up and pumping up the backs - Ieremia standing behind him looking rather awkward and out of place lol. Some personal things happened too in which the players lost respect for him as a person.
Most interesting to hear all that , I hope they get it all sorted. It always a concern when a coach loses players like that and if it let go on, will take a fair bit to repair damage.
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@nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@crucial yep - lost the changing room, lost credibility in the eyes of the players. They probably would have done the 3-peat if the coaching was better!
Pah - if bloody Steve Hansen hadn't released Joe Moody to the Cantabs in the 2018 semi, you'd probably have done a no-peat!
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@duluth I see Lisati Milo-Harris is now playing in Auckland (Grammar TEC). And another Milo-Harris at fullback. Brother? Are they originally from Auckland, or moving around?
Also a Jamie Spowart at fullback for Pakuranga. Is that the (ex) Ta$man player?
Noticing a former Hawke's Bay Tui - Anna Powdrell - in the Ponsonby Fillies team. Probably moved to Auckland to attend Uni. Another one, Liana Mikaele-Tu'u, in her second year out of school, playing for College Rifles.
I see both Curtis sisters (Canterbury) are playing for College Rifles, too. Planning an FPC move?
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@stargazer said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@duluth I see Lisati Milo-Harris is now playing in Auckland (Grammar TEC). And another Milo-Harris at fullback. Brother? Are they originally from Auckland, or moving around?
He is from Auckland and educated there. Milo-Harris was playing for Taranaki and the Chiefs Dev team only a few weeks ago.
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@stargazer said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@duluth I see Lisati Milo-Harris is now playing in Auckland (Grammar TEC). And another Milo-Harris at fullback. Brother? Are they originally from Auckland, or moving around?
Lisati played for Auckland a few years ago but only got one start. Him and Plummer were the 9/10 combo that came through at the same time at Grammar TEC
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@stargazer said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@duluth I see Lisati Milo-Harris is now playing in Auckland (Grammar TEC). And another Milo-Harris at fullback. Brother? Are they originally from Auckland, or moving around?
Also a Jamie Spowart at fullback for Pakuranga. Is that the (ex) Ta$man player?
Pretty sure those Milo Harris boys are the sons of Richie Harris - who by the way has joined the Counties Manukau coaching staff this year - who by the way have signed Hoskins Sotutu!
Yea Jamie Spowart 2018 NZU20s, Ta$man. Botany Downs & Kings College educated so back in his hometown. Very fast and skilfull but perhaps could've done with a few extra kgs on his frame. I really rated him.
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@nogusta said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@stargazer said in Auckland Rugby 2021:
@duluth I see Lisati Milo-Harris is now playing in Auckland (Grammar TEC). And another Milo-Harris at fullback. Brother? Are they originally from Auckland, or moving around?
Also a Jamie Spowart at fullback for Pakuranga. Is that the (ex) Ta$man player?
Pretty sure those Milo Harris boys are the sons of Richie Harris - who by the way has joined the Counties Manukau coaching staff this year - who by the way have signed Hoskins Sotutu!
Yea Jamie Spowart 2018 NZU20s, Ta$man. Botany Downs & Kings College educated so back in his hometown. Very fast and skilfull but perhaps could've done with a few extra kgs on his frame. I really rated him.
Need an extra option rather than "like". Perhaps, "thanks for posting, but goddammit all to hell".
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Confirms some things posted here.
Sotutu is unlikely to be the last high-profile name leaving Auckland before the 2021 provincial season, with All Blacks prop Ofa Tuungafasi understood to have approached Northland.
Fellow All Blacks Caleb Clarke, Akira Ioane and flanker Blake Gibson were also understood to be among others weighing their futures with Auckland. Ioane is thought to have told Blues teammates he could represent Northland, as his grandfather on his mother's side lives in Kaikohe.
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I can see Gibson going to Counties too. Tai Lavea had him at St Kents.
Auckland hanging onto Alama is going to cause us to suffer in the short and long term.
I'm guessing more will leave next year. There will definitely be guys who wanted to leave this year but they're still under contract.
Auckland exodus begins: All Blacks star joins rival team
