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  • StargazerS Offline
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    @chris At this moment, I don't think they should just "try someone". That devalues the jersey in the same way as giving Brett Cameron a cap. Apart from Fakatava, nobody has played well enough to push Smith, TJP and Weber out of the jersey.

    Selection for North v South isn't a great yardstick, because it all depends on where they played their first provincial game and for the North spot there was far more competition. There's also no way that Finlay Christie and TTT have played better this season than Bryn Hall.

    If TJP isn't available, I expect them to select Smith, Weber and the Foster fallback, a Chiefs player, so most likely TTT (it should probably be Drummond).

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    @stargazer Hall is 29, hardly a selection for the future.

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    @bovidae I wasn't suggesting selecting him. If selected, he'd be a stop-gap until Fakatava is fit anyway, but more deserving than TTT or Christie (who IMO aren't ABs material).

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    @bovidae said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:

    @stargazer Hall is 29, hardly a selection for the future.

    We don't need to select a player for the next decade. Hall would be perfectly capable of coming off the bench at 32. We're now stuck in a professional era defined by four year cycles. The worst thing about 2019 was we didn't do the three-peat. If we did, the rest of the world might've stated caring about each individual test a bit more.

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    @stargazer TTT looked good in his limited opportunities for the ABs. His problem is he plays so little for the Chiefs, for one reason or another.

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    @stargazer said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:

    @chris At this moment, I don't think they should just "try someone". That devalues the jersey in the same way as giving Brett Cameron a cap. Apart from Fakatava, nobody has played well enough to push Smith, TJP and Weber out of the jersey.

    Selection for North v South isn't a great yardstick, because it all depends on where they played their first provincial game and for the North spot there was far more competition. There's also no way that Finlay Christie and TTT have played better this season than Bryn Hall.

    If TJP isn't available, I expect them to select Smith, Weber and the Foster fallback, a Chiefs player, so most likely TTT (it should probably be Drummond).

    If Smith gets injured or TJP doesn't come back(both a possibility) then someone still has to be picked, you are weakening the jersey anyway.Why not select someone while you still have the other options to fall back on.

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    @stargazer said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:

    the Foster fallback, a Chiefs player

    jesus i missed this. You want to walk me through the basis for that?

    or have you finally worked out this place is mainly chucking out bait for the lolz

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    TJP was frustrating because he's obviously a supremely talented athlete, but just didn't have the nous to perform consistently at the highest level. Poor decisions and brain farts became a bit synonymous with his play which you just can't afford in a tight test. On the flipside he did break some tests open by upping the tempo with his running game, including support play, but you just couldn't rely on him to make the right decision all the time.

    All that said he's been a great player to have in the mix to keep A Smith honest, and he has been superb in Super rugby in combination with Beauden. Seems like a top bloke off the field as well.

    I think he'd go great in League. Much simpler game, chuck him at Hooker where his running and support play will really come to the fore with the extra space you get, and his passing is good enough in that game.

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    @no-quarter said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:

    TJP was frustrating because he's obviously a supremely talented athlete, but just didn't have the nous to perform consistently at the highest level. Poor decisions and brain farts became a bit synonymous with his play which you just can't afford in a tight test. On the flipside he did break some tests open by upping the tempo with his running game, including support play, but you just couldn't rely on him to make the right decision all the time.

    All that said he's been a great player to have in the mix to keep A Smith honest, and he has been superb in Super rugby in combination with Beauden. Seems like a top bloke off the field as well.

    I think he'd go great in League. Much simpler game, chuck him at Hooker where his running and support play will really come to the fore with the extra space you get, and his passing is good enough in that game.

    Yeah I was one of his staunchest supporters but had to admit he was every colour of shit last year. It’s so frustrating because he has the size and skillset to be a worldclass 9 but he’s just braindead. It’s even more frustrating when seeing him absolutely carve it up for the Canes over the years.

    I think he would actually do very well at league but don’t think this is a serious option in the slightest. It’s just a negotiating tactic and I hope they tell him to go fück himself.

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:

    I think he would actually do very well at league

    playing in the middle, especially defending, is so bloody hard now. It would take him a while to get the required fitness level.

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    @mariner4life said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:

    I think he would actually do very well at league

    playing in the middle, especially defending, is so bloody hard now. It would take him a while to get the required fitness level.

    Obviously the transition would take time and there’s no way a league club with a salary cap will pay Japan level money for him. It’s all BS.

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:

    @mariner4life said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:

    @rancid-schnitzel said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:

    I think he would actually do very well at league

    playing in the middle, especially defending, is so bloody hard now. It would take him a while to get the required fitness level.

    Obviously the transition would take time and there’s no way a league club with a salary cap will pay Japan level money for him. It’s all BS.

    we are talking rooster sombrero here, somehow they fit more in that cap than most.. but honestly cant see him going though and although walking into a top team, as per what M4L said, he will be found out just waving arms in the middle by a coathanger or two pretty quickly.

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    @rancid-schnitzel said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:

    It’s all BS.

    I thought so too - but RTS made the switch!

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    I reckon he’d make an excellent hooker given his high work rate and tackle ability. He could even be very good at 5/8 with his boot and not be a liability on defence like a number of 5/8s in the NRL.

    As for his AB career, when he hasn’t tried to be the man, he has played well and provided good impact off the bench. But when he tries to take over the game he has made some very costly mistakes.

    Leads the haka well.

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    @act-crusader I did not realise that leading the haka was a component to being selected.

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    i have a significant problem with the haka being led by a halfback

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    @higgins said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:

    @act-crusader I did not realise that leading the haka was a component to being selected.

    It should be at least in the top 3 skill considerations. Not as important as hair style or boot colour though.

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    @higgins said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:

    @act-crusader I did not realise that leading the haka was a component to being selected.

    Have you not wondered why most of our halfbacks in the last few years have been Maori? 😉

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    @mariner4life said in TJ Perenara to the NRL?:

    i have a significant problem with the haka being led by a halfback

    How did you cope when it was Stu Forster?

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    It isn't as if there is a flood of quality, uninjured halfbacks running around at the moment.
    I think he is fine at the right moment off the bench if well-coached and well-drilled. Oh, Foster, you say?
    I couldn't possibly comment..

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