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@Snowy Yup global climate change is melting the ice caps, and the cold dense water is stopping the gulf stream going as far north as it used to. So the UK will get significantly colder from glabl climate change. In addition Scotland is rising and England sinking, in the last ice age the weight of the ice oop north tilted Britain - wnough that you could walk from the continent. That has gone so the island is slowly righting itself, combined with increasing sea levels we'll see a lot of what was once marsh become so again - the SE
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@Snowy said in How's the weather?:
@Nevorian said in How's the weather?:
@Victor-Meldrew said in How's the weather?:
about -1.3 in Cornwall and strong winds from the East. About -5.2 Wind chill.
No snow or ice as the air is really dry.
Does the Gulf Stream ocean current make it a bit milder there or is that more Southern Ireland. Couldn’t believe it when I saw palm trees in Ireland, wtf the tropics in Ireland of all places
Palms in west Scotland too. The Gulf stream was my first thought as well when I heard about the UK weather. At risk of upsetting climate change deniers but the GS stopping was in the modeling and the UK getting significantly colder as a result. Not saying that is happening (could be a one off event) but QI nonetheless.
Parts of the Thames have frozen for the first time in 60 years .
The Thames is significantly less polluted now than over the last 100 years which would have an impact. Water freezes at a higher temperature than most pollutants. This is based on my knowledge of drinking Youngs and Fullers beer. The taste of which has declined with the increasing purity of the water. Fuck you Greta Thunberg.
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@Machpants said in How's the weather?:
@Snowy Yup global climate change is melting the ice caps, and the cold dense water is stopping the gulf stream going as far north as it used to. So the UK will get significantly colder from glabl climate change. In addition Scotland is rising and England sinking, in the last ice age the weight of the ice oop north tilted Britain - wnough that you could walk from the continent. That has gone so the island is slowly righting itself, combined with increasing sea levels we'll see a lot of what was once marsh become so again - the SE
When? It’s been a very mild winter on the whole. Real cold snap at the moment, -4 outside with a high tomorrow of 1, buy on the whole it’s been ok. Last winter was incredibly wet followed by 3-4 months of straight sun! It’s forecast to be 15 by end of the week - that’s nuts!
Point is not to deny climate change but to say it’s more making things variable than colder. Without doubt, this country is much warmer than when I lived here 2000-2004.
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@Catogrande said in How's the weather?:
The Thames is significantly less polluted now than over the last 100 years which would have an impact. Water freezes at a higher temperature than most pollutants.
That is all true, it could also just be that it is bloody cold.
"London weather: Freezing February could be coldest on record in London as arctic conditions continue"
**"Parts of the UK could be facing the coldest February night since the 1940s after warnings that mercury could fall as low as minus 20C.After recording the coldest night in the UK in 11 years, forecasters including the Met Office are now warning it could be about to get even worse, with five more days of bitingly cold weather"** (that was a couple of days ago).
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@barbarian said in Climate Change:
@No-Quarter They aren't a direct result of climate change, in the sense that we have bushfires every year.
But the strength of the fires are exacerbated by the drought (so the country is very dry), and the more intense summer conditions we are experiencing. A delayed northern wet season has also contributed, pushing hot westerly winds across the south-east.
So it is related to climate change. There is nothing new about fires, or loss of property/life, but the extent of these fires is unprecedented.
Plus way more people have moved to the bush in the last 20-30 years for the lifestyle block experience and building in densely vegetated areas so would expect to see significantly more property damage. Other causes of fire from human activity include poor wiring and use of power tools and other hot works during total fire bans
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@snowy said in Climate Change:
@Catogrande said in How's the weather?:
The Thames is significantly less polluted now than over the last 100 years which would have an impact. Water freezes at a higher temperature than most pollutants.
That is all true, it could also just be that it is bloody cold.
"London weather: Freezing February could be coldest on record in London as arctic conditions continue"
**"Parts of the UK could be facing the coldest February night since the 1940s after warnings that mercury could fall as low as minus 20C.After recording the coldest night in the UK in 11 years, forecasters including the Met Office are now warning it could be about to get even worse, with five more days of bitingly cold weather"** (that was a couple of days ago).
15 degrees yesterday .... this is nuts. The temperature swings here much more like opposite side of Atlantic now.
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@majorrage said in Climate Change:
Just watched a documentary on Greta.
What a phenomenal person. Deserving of every single accolade.
For such a tiny young person, to achieve what she has is simply amazing. And she’s incredibly savvy and smart too.
I’m genuinely blown away.
What's the name of the doco?
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@snowy said in Climate Change:
@gt12 said in Climate Change:
What's the name of the doco?
I would really like to avoid it too.
I'm happy to have my stereotype about her challenged, although it may be a tough sell.
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@snowy What surprises me; given that every 16 year old ever has always been the font of all wisdom, is why she was given the oxygen that she was?
Don't want to shoot the messenger (no really) but why did she become such a thing? Says everything about modern society that a smug, self satisfied, clearly manipulated nobody with nothing but a well oiled media campaign was able to berate the world and gain so much traction.
It genuinely bemuses me.
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@dogmeat said in Climate Change:
@snowy What surprises me; given that every 16 year old ever has always been the font of all wisdom, is why she was given the oxygen that she was?
Don't want to shoot the messenger (no really) but why did she become such a thing? Says everything about modern society that a smug, self satisfied, clearly manipulated nobody with nothing but a well oiled media campaign was able to berate the world and gain so much traction.
It genuinely bemuses me.
how dare you!
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@mariner4life said in Climate Change:
@dogmeat said in Climate Change:
@snowy What surprises me; given that every 16 year old ever has always been the font of all wisdom, is why she was given the oxygen that she was?
Don't want to shoot the messenger (no really) but why did she become such a thing? Says everything about modern society that a smug, self satisfied, clearly manipulated nobody with nothing but a well oiled media campaign was able to berate the world and gain so much traction.
It genuinely bemuses me.
how dare you!
I'm a pale male middle aged boomer responsible for all the worlds ills.
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@dogmeat said in Climate Change:
@snowy What surprises me; given that every 16 year old ever has always been the font of all wisdom, is why she was given the oxygen that she was?
Don't want to shoot the messenger (no really) but why did she become such a thing? Says everything about modern society that a smug, self satisfied, clearly manipulated nobody with nothing but a well oiled media campaign was able to berate the world and gain so much traction.
It genuinely bemuses me.
Just a guess, but I take it that you are in the former category from my post?
@dogmeat said in Climate Change:
every 16 year old ever
Minor spelling issue there - it is "evaaa".
@dogmeat said in Climate Change:
I'm a pale male middle aged boomer responsible for all the worlds ills.
Well at least one of you is owning up to it.
I'm only one generation away and accepting no responsibility for any of it. -
@gt12 - it was episode 2 of this
Let me start off by saying that I've been as skeptical of her as anybody else - hell, I'm 43 and use more hydrocarbons in the interest of pleasure than most people.
But I have vastly under-rated her. I don't necessarily agree with everything she says, but she is undoubtedly a very special human. Here are some key points
- She has some serious serious guts about her. Physically, she's absolutely tiny, she doesn't like crowds and look at what she's achieved. She was asked about meeting Trump & she said "I'll have to be polite of course, but I'm not sure I can be kind" - or something like that.
- Her direct speech is actually very thought out and articulated. She uses her time to get straight to the point & get her message across. Yes, this does come across as angry teenager at times, but this angry teenager is prepared to do this in front of all world leaders. You cannot underestimate that.
- She engages with the opposite side. In the documentary last night she visited a Polish coal mine which is being shut down to talk. You could see she had real empathy with them & didn't preach to them. Just listened and then talked about it. She's obviously a left icon, but you don't see that so much any more from the hard left media.
- She is 100% genuine. You never get the ideas that the hoodies / angry faces / tears are stage managed in any way. Comparing her interview to Markle is like day & night.
I don't agree with all she says. But it's also no accident she became the icon that she is.
My wife and I were genuinely gobsmacked at what we saw.
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@snowy said in Climate Change:
@majorrage Excellent. I'll have a look, thanks. I wasn't quite sure if you were being facetious or not. I take the piss so often on here that I assume that everybody is. More than happy to have a look and see what they say.
Yeah, just read my original post. It does look rather facetious, especially given it came from me.
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