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    @derpus coz they can. Need to make up for their inevitable loss in the SRA final next weekend.

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    Grace or Blackadder will be riding the pine.

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    @canes4life

    Ethan, you've played so well this year that we've decided to bring in your replacement.

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    @derpus said in 2021 Crusaders:

    @canes4life I sincerely wish the Crusaders would just fuck off, honestly. How the fuck do they need Pablo fucking Matera?

    Adds to their depth. Loose forward has been a weak point the last couple of years. Whether or not that should be a foreigner? Crusaders aren't the first team to look overseas.

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    @kiwi_expat said in 2021 Crusaders:

    Honestly the level of discord on here is reaching a new low..

    Derpus is an ozzie, and has been hoping for more variety of tournament winners ...

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    but but culcha! internal development! intangibles!

    good move, there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't do this deal (although doesn't he play the same position as their two best loose forwards) but let this be the end of the sanctimony aye? The Crusaders are good because the accumulate good talent, and have a coach who points them in the right direction.

    i really hope this happens. It's always good to get good players playing here. If i won lotto i would buy players for the Chiefs.

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    They knew Matera would be a good fit into their culture once they saw the racist tweets.

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    @toddy said in 2021 Crusaders:

    They knew Matera would be a good fit into their culture once they saw the racist tweets.

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    @bovidae said in 2021 Crusaders:

    Grace or Blackadder will be riding the pine.

    Could he play openside instead? Generally the other Argentinean flanker is a lock/loose forward like Kremer, so I don't think Argentina necessarily view flankers in the same way we do.

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    @bobily2 Was thinking the same thing. Maybe they want him at openside.

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    @toddy said in 2021 Crusaders:

    They knew Matera would be a good fit into their culture once they saw the racist tweets.

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    I don't think the Crusaders' backrow is half as bad as people are saying. But with Blackadder having relatively few caps for his age due to injury, Grace being 21 years and Christie 23 years old (the top tacler before he got injured, this season), the first choice backrow is pretty green.

    Sanders has the expierence at 27, but also breaks regularly, and has been pretty good the last 2 seasons when he played.

    Their depth has been lacking with Douglas going downhill since his first year when he replaced injured Kieran Read (2017?). Sione Havili is also only 23, but may not have the potential.

    Signing Matera may be a masterstroke. Grace just can't play every game at his age and Matera is a great player he can learn from. In the mean time, Anton Segner and other youngsters coming through can learn as well, before they're thrown into the deep end.

    Still not a fan of signing foreign players, but maybe there are not enough good NZ backrowers at the moment?

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    replied to Derpus on last edited by Chris
    #327

    @derpus said in 2021 Crusaders:

    @canes4life I sincerely wish the Crusaders would just fuck off, honestly. How the fuck do they need Pablo fucking Matera?

    Because we want to keep dominating all the Aussie teams and have to keep up with the Western Force who are the United Nations with Kiwis,Irishman,Argies,SA And English players

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    @stargazer said in 2021 Crusaders:

    I don't think the Crusaders' backrow is half as bad as people are saying. But with Blackadder having relatively few caps for his age due to injury, Grace being 21 years and Christie 23 years old (the top tacler before he got injured, this season), the first choice backrow is pretty green.

    Sanders has the expierence at 27, but also breaks regularly, and has been pretty good the last 2 seasons when he played.

    Their depth has been lacking with Douglas going downhill since his first year when he replaced injured Kieran Read (2017?). Sione Havili is also only 23, but may not have the potential.

    Signing Matera may be a masterstroke. Grace just can't play every game at his age and Matera is a great player he can learn from. In the mean time, Anton Segner and other youngsters coming through can learn as well, before they're thrown into the deep end.

    Still not a fan of signing foreign players, but maybe there are not enough good NZ backrowers at the moment?

    Brilliant Move a real hard arse LF to teach the young pups like Grace.

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    @mariner4life said in 2021 Crusaders:

    but but culcha! internal development! intangibles!

    good move, there isn't a team in the world that wouldn't do this deal (although doesn't he play the same position as their two best loose forwards) but let this be the end of the sanctimony aye? The Crusaders are good because the accumulate good talent, and have a coach who points them in the right direction.

    i really hope this happens. It's always good to get good players playing here. If i won lotto i would buy players for the Chiefs.

    Well said great move by the Crusaders.

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    Has Ta$man staged a coup? The Crusaders Chequebook Invitational Baabaas XV building up stocks for next year. 😉

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    @stargazer

    How is the German tank coming along? I’d forgotten about Segner.

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    @billy-tell Played very well at the SRA Under 20 tournament. He captained the Crusaders U20s. Strong & good decision maker. If he doesn't make the senior squad next year, it will surely be the next.

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    @stargazer said in 2021 Crusaders:

    @billy-tell Played very well at the SRA Under 20 tournament. He captained the Crusaders U20s. Strong & good decision maker. If he doesn't make the senior squad next year, it will surely be the next.

    It’s an awesome story imo. Would be great to have a German lad leave home, shine at all levels and make the ABs. I’d love to see him steamrolling the poms at twickenham. Panzer jokes galore. Time will tell.

    As for matera. Savage. That is a great signing. I’d ditch the current 7 havili, just not at this level.

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