Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Someone feeling a bit stupid for being stupid.
Get her a t-shirt that reads 'Facebook cost me my job'
Feel a little sorry that they used a photo of someone associated with the fool above the headline though.
I know of a certain number of health professionals are about to be in the same boat, which is deeply disappointing.
A comment was made that how good could they be at their jobs if they didn't understand the need for vaccinated staff when dealing with patients that are high risk of dying if they were exposed to Covid.
If you deal with the public, no jab no job IMO.
The best vaccine roll-out has been to the military front liners. Do as you are told and queue up over there.
Funny how none of them have had an issue.
Unfortunately giving people choice also gives them the ability to make stupid decisions.The woman referred to in the article sounds like she wanted to be pig-headed then received some bad advice from this 'employment law advocate' and is now paying the price.
I'm all for people having a choice, but that doesn't trump people right not to be exposed to disease. Particularly a disease that has been shutting down the economy.
So these people can refuse a jab, but they better have alternative skills that allow redeployment otherwise, sucks to be you.
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@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Someone feeling a bit stupid for being stupid.
Get her a t-shirt that reads 'Facebook cost me my job'
Feel a little sorry that they used a photo of someone associated with the fool above the headline though.
I know of a certain number of health professionals are about to be in the same boat, which is deeply disappointing.
A comment was made that how good could they be at their jobs if they didn't understand the need for vaccinated staff when dealing with patients that are high risk of dying if they were exposed to Covid.
If you deal with the public, no jab no job IMO.
The best vaccine roll-out has been to the military front liners. Do as you are told and queue up over there.
Funny how none of them have had an issue.
Unfortunately giving people choice also gives them the ability to make stupid decisions.The woman referred to in the article sounds like she wanted to be pig-headed then received some bad advice from this 'employment law advocate' and is now paying the price.
She seems a bit dense. Imagine pointing your client towards an outcome that the employer legally can't deliver.
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@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The woman referred to in the article sounds like she wanted to be pig-headed then received some bad advice from this 'employment law advocate' and is now paying the price.
Was this employment law advocate offering free legal advice on Facebook?
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@antipodean Apparently she's actually qualified. She has an LLM. Imagine that.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The woman referred to in the article sounds like she wanted to be pig-headed then received some bad advice from this 'employment law advocate' and is now paying the price.
Was this employment law advocate offering free legal advice on Facebook?
Not entirely free. She is a 'No win, No pay' employment advocate. A Saul Goodman of sorts. Advertises for business on FB though.
My original comment was more about those swayed into going down this route by anti-vax/mask etc stuff spread through social media.This was from a FB link https://www.ashleightheadvocate.co.nz/post/covid-19-vaccination-and-employment-law
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@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The woman referred to in the article sounds like she wanted to be pig-headed then received some bad advice from this 'employment law advocate' and is now paying the price.
Was this employment law advocate offering free legal advice on Facebook?
Not entirely free. She is a 'No win, No pay' employment advocate. A Saul Goodman of sorts. Advertises for business on FB though.
My original comment was more about those swayed into going down this route by anti-vax/mask etc stuff spread through social media.This was from a FB link https://www.ashleightheadvocate.co.nz/post/covid-19-vaccination-and-employment-law
Jesus, she's dumber than I thought. What a snotmagnet.
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@jc said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
The woman referred to in the article sounds like she wanted to be pig-headed then received some bad advice from this 'employment law advocate' and is now paying the price.
Was this employment law advocate offering free legal advice on Facebook?
Not entirely free. She is a 'No win, No pay' employment advocate. A Saul Goodman of sorts. Advertises for business on FB though.
My original comment was more about those swayed into going down this route by anti-vax/mask etc stuff spread through social media.This was from a FB link https://www.ashleightheadvocate.co.nz/post/covid-19-vaccination-and-employment-law
Jesus, she's dumber than I thought. What a snotmagnet.
Totally ignores the key point that this isn't a choice for the employer. They have been told to do so by the MoH.
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Good news; my Mum's rest home had everyone vaccinated today with the first dose
Bad news; her Alzheimer's is at a point where she can't remember having had the vaccine.
Slight silver lining; there cant be much in the way of pain or lingering symptoms if she genuinely "ooh, I can't remember any vaccine" a few hours later...
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@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@donsteppa Can't upvote something like that. Great about the vaccine, but shit about the rest.
Sorry mate.It was a very surreal conversation (I’m sure they said it was going to be today…).
Overall a relief though as, while I’ll still Covid scan religiously etc, I’m now relatively less worried about accidentally infecting a whole rest home when I get back from occasional work trips to the Auckland airport precinct.
Rest homes are a real mixed bag. There’s ones who are physically fine but mentally gone, but vice versa too. The ones of sharp mind but failing body must get used to some very strange conversations at meal times.
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@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@donsteppa Can't upvote something like that. Great about the vaccine, but shit about the rest.
Sorry mate.Feel shit about the upvote but it was warranted.
At least she avoids a particularly shitty way of shuffling from this mortal coil.
"Thoughts and prayers" Don, if it helps.
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@donsteppa said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@donsteppa Can't upvote something like that. Great about the vaccine, but shit about the rest.
Sorry mate.It was a very surreal conversation (I’m sure they said it was going to be today…).
Overall a relief though as, while I’ll still Covid scan religiously etc, I’m now relatively less worried about accidentally infecting a whole rest home when I get back from occasional work trips to the Auckland airport precinct.
Rest homes are a real mixed bag. There’s ones who are physically fine but mentally gone, but vice versa too. The ones of sharp mind but failing body must get used to some very strange conversations at meal times.
That was Mum. Though thankfully/unfortunately I was on the left side of the Tassie and my bro had to deal with that.
But enough of my 3 year old issues.
I'm sure the rest of our TSF family are feeling for you, and would help anyway we can.
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
At least she avoids a particularly shitty way of shuffling from this mortal coil.
Yep, at least Covid is off the list! I don't think there are many good ways to go, but illnesses (or accidents) causing a lack of oxygen must be among the least pleasant...
@booboo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I'm sure the rest of our TSF family are feeling for you, and would help anyway we can.
Cheers. Inaccurately berating the ref/selectors/umpire/coaches/teams among good company on TSF is always great therapy
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@donsteppa said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
At least she avoids a particularly shitty way of shuffling from this mortal coil.
Yep, at least Covid is off the list! I don't think there are many good ways to go, but illnesses (or accidents) causing a lack of oxygen must be among the least pleasant...
@booboo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I'm sure the rest of our TSF family are feeling for you, and would help anyway we can.
Cheers. Inaccurately berating the ref/selectors/umpire/coaches/teams among good company on TSF is always great therapy
Damn we're awesome
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@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Someone feeling a bit stupid for being stupid.
Get her a t-shirt that reads 'Facebook cost me my job'
Feel a little sorry that they used a photo of someone associated with the fool above the headline though.
I know of a certain number of health professionals are about to be in the same boat, which is deeply disappointing.
A comment was made that how good could they be at their jobs if they didn't understand the need for vaccinated staff when dealing with patients that are high risk of dying if they were exposed to Covid.
If you deal with the public, no jab no job IMO.
The best vaccine roll-out has been to the military front liners. Do as you are told and queue up over there.
Funny how none of them have had an issue.
Unfortunately giving people choice also gives them the ability to make stupid decisions.The woman referred to in the article sounds like she wanted to be pig-headed then received some bad advice from this 'employment law advocate' and is now paying the price.
I'm all for people having a choice, but that doesn't trump people right not to be exposed to disease. Particularly a disease that has been shutting down the economy.
So these people can refuse a jab, but they better have alternative skills that allow redeployment otherwise, sucks to be you.
Agree, and public servants who get sacked probably turned down redeployment (my sources tell me that was the case here).
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Someone feeling a bit stupid for being stupid.
Get her a t-shirt that reads 'Facebook cost me my job'
Feel a little sorry that they used a photo of someone associated with the fool above the headline though.
I know of a certain number of health professionals are about to be in the same boat, which is deeply disappointing.
A comment was made that how good could they be at their jobs if they didn't understand the need for vaccinated staff when dealing with patients that are high risk of dying if they were exposed to Covid.
If you deal with the public, no jab no job IMO.
The best vaccine roll-out has been to the military front liners. Do as you are told and queue up over there.
Funny how none of them have had an issue.
Unfortunately giving people choice also gives them the ability to make stupid decisions.The woman referred to in the article sounds like she wanted to be pig-headed then received some bad advice from this 'employment law advocate' and is now paying the price.
I'm all for people having a choice, but that doesn't trump people right not to be exposed to disease. Particularly a disease that has been shutting down the economy.
So these people can refuse a jab, but they better have alternative skills that allow redeployment otherwise, sucks to be you.
Agree, and public servants who get sacked probably turned down redeployment (my sources tell me that was the case here).
Zero sympathy from me. This is covid19, not tiddlywinks
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I reckon you would have to work exceedingly hard to get fired as a low level government employee
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I reckon you would have to work exceedingly hard to get fired as a low level government employee
Quite the irony.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
I reckon you would have to work exceedingly hard to get fired as a low level government employee
Would have to refuse the vaccination and then refuse redeployment or reassignment to other work across the public service, so not just the original department. Maybe not hard, but would very much be the architect of one's own demise.