Coronavirus - New Zealand
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They consider 18500 vaccinations in a city of over 1M people to be a success? Loving how management all got their jabs first, "to set an example". Set for who? The medical staff want to have the jab. It sounds like climbing into the first seats of the lifeboat on the Titanic, to set an example....
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My colleague who deals with the DHB has a very low opinion of their handling of the vaccination roll out. They are limiting facilities who will be eligible to provide shots in the general roll out to those who can promise to provide 75 shots a day. I don't know where they got this number from, but it rules out a large number of GPs, who are well equipped to give them (bearing in mind they already routinely provide other vaccinations and have systems in place, and established databases filled with patients very used to seeing them). It is not a question of storage because vaccines will be delivered and will store for 5 days. Just another case of administrative walaahs ignoring advice from people at the frontline
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo you get away bro?
Jeez, it's like we're all colditz pow's eager to hear of a comrade's escape attempt 🙂
Yeah mate, I'm in Palmy now. Escaped the gulag, for, well, the gulag....
Next few days will be interesting to see how the return leg goes, but I'm feeling lucky!
Great that you got there (sort of, it's Palmy after all).
How's your Mum doing?
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@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@voodoo you get away bro?
Jeez, it's like we're all colditz pow's eager to hear of a comrade's escape attempt 🙂
Yeah mate, I'm in Palmy now. Escaped the gulag, for, well, the gulag....
Next few days will be interesting to see how the return leg goes, but I'm feeling lucky!
Great that you got there (sort of, it's Palmy after all).
How's your Mum doing?
Gets pretty tired, but for the most part is the same as she was 7 months ago when I left NZ. Truly bizarre, she is definitely one of the beneficiaries of Covid. At Xmas-19 I'd have given her 2 months max. And here we are 17 months later 🤷♂️
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@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If you have the vaccination in another country, does NZ still require you to quarantine when you return?
"If you have received a COVID-19 vaccination overseas, you will still need to secure a voucher and complete 14 days in New Zealand's Managed Isolation and Quarantine Facilities.12/03/2021"
Not completely up to date but I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
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@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If you have the vaccination in another country, does NZ still require you to quarantine when you return?
"If you have received a COVID-19 vaccination overseas, you will still need to secure a voucher and complete 14 days in New Zealand's Managed Isolation and Quarantine Facilities.12/03/2021"
Not completely up to date but I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
What?!?!
I fucking hope that is going to change.
If you are vaccinated and test negative two times (before boarding, after arriving), it makes no sense that that you should still need to sit in a fucking hotel room - at your own expense - for two weeks, just to see your Mum.
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If you have the vaccination in another country, does NZ still require you to quarantine when you return?
"If you have received a COVID-19 vaccination overseas, you will still need to secure a voucher and complete 14 days in New Zealand's Managed Isolation and Quarantine Facilities.12/03/2021"
Not completely up to date but I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
What?!?!
I fucking hope that is going to change.
If you are vaccinated and test negative two times (before boarding, after arriving), it makes no sense that that you should still need to sit in a fucking hotel room - at your own expense - for two weeks, just to see your Mum.
Yes it does at the moment. Sadly.
I get that some countries are able to be risk assessed well regarding vaccinations but there has to be a lowest denominator approach to avoid cries of favouritism or racism as happened when restrictions were placed on travel originating in India because testing certificates were not trusted. -
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If you have the vaccination in another country, does NZ still require you to quarantine when you return?
"If you have received a COVID-19 vaccination overseas, you will still need to secure a voucher and complete 14 days in New Zealand's Managed Isolation and Quarantine Facilities.12/03/2021"
Not completely up to date but I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
What?!?!
I fucking hope that is going to change.
If you are vaccinated and test negative two times (before boarding, after arriving), it makes no sense that that you should still need to sit in a fucking hotel room - at your own expense - for two weeks, just to see your Mum.
It makes a mockery of vaccination. It also makes a mockery of first world/ developed status if your health and immigration departments can't conduct child level risk analysis.
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@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If you have the vaccination in another country, does NZ still require you to quarantine when you return?
"If you have received a COVID-19 vaccination overseas, you will still need to secure a voucher and complete 14 days in New Zealand's Managed Isolation and Quarantine Facilities.12/03/2021"
Not completely up to date but I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
Thanks Snowy.
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@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If you have the vaccination in another country, does NZ still require you to quarantine when you return?
"If you have received a COVID-19 vaccination overseas, you will still need to secure a voucher and complete 14 days in New Zealand's Managed Isolation and Quarantine Facilities.12/03/2021"
Not completely up to date but I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
What?!?!
I fucking hope that is going to change.
If you are vaccinated and test negative two times (before boarding, after arriving), it makes no sense that that you should still need to sit in a fucking hotel room - at your own expense - for two weeks, just to see your Mum.
Yes it does at the moment. Sadly.
I get that some countries are able to be risk assessed well regarding vaccinations but there has to be a lowest denominator approach to avoid cries of favouritism or racism as happened when restrictions were placed on travel originating in India because testing certificates were not trusted.Shit. This could mean it is a looooong time before some people are able to go to NZ without being quarantined, despite being vaccinated.
I hope NZ trusts Taiwan (or is it Republic of China in NZ).
You say it is because some countries might cry racsim.
Wokeism strikes again. -
@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If you have the vaccination in another country, does NZ still require you to quarantine when you return?
"If you have received a COVID-19 vaccination overseas, you will still need to secure a voucher and complete 14 days in New Zealand's Managed Isolation and Quarantine Facilities.12/03/2021"
Not completely up to date but I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
What?!?!
I fucking hope that is going to change.
If you are vaccinated and test negative two times (before boarding, after arriving), it makes no sense that that you should still need to sit in a fucking hotel room - at your own expense - for two weeks, just to see your Mum.
Yes it does at the moment. Sadly.
I get that some countries are able to be risk assessed well regarding vaccinations but there has to be a lowest denominator approach to avoid cries of favouritism or racism as happened when restrictions were placed on travel originating in India because testing certificates were not trusted.Shit. This could mean it is a looooong time before some people are able to go to NZ without being quarantined, despite being vaccinated.
I hope NZ trusts Taiwan (or is it Republic of China in NZ).
You say it is because some countries might cry racsim.
Wokeism strikes again.Considering Taiwan and Singapore are at the top of nations regarding covid response, I would like to think we would have a bubble sooner rather than later. I would imagine their precautions make us look like amateur hour
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If you have the vaccination in another country, does NZ still require you to quarantine when you return?
"If you have received a COVID-19 vaccination overseas, you will still need to secure a voucher and complete 14 days in New Zealand's Managed Isolation and Quarantine Facilities.12/03/2021"
Not completely up to date but I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
What?!?!
I fucking hope that is going to change.
If you are vaccinated and test negative two times (before boarding, after arriving), it makes no sense that that you should still need to sit in a fucking hotel room - at your own expense - for two weeks, just to see your Mum.
Yes it does at the moment. Sadly.
I get that some countries are able to be risk assessed well regarding vaccinations but there has to be a lowest denominator approach to avoid cries of favouritism or racism as happened when restrictions were placed on travel originating in India because testing certificates were not trusted.Shit. This could mean it is a looooong time before some people are able to go to NZ without being quarantined, despite being vaccinated.
I hope NZ trusts Taiwan (or is it Republic of China in NZ).
You say it is because some countries might cry racsim.
Wokeism strikes again.Considering Taiwan and Singapore are at the top of nations regarding covid response, I would like to think we would have a bubble sooner rather than later. I would imagine their precautions make us look like amateur hour
It's very good here, but in the last week or so some Covid has broken out a bit in the north and the govt has not yet been able to trace the source. We have gone to level 2. Mask wearing outside has gone from 70% to 95%+ (at a guess)
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@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If you have the vaccination in another country, does NZ still require you to quarantine when you return?
"If you have received a COVID-19 vaccination overseas, you will still need to secure a voucher and complete 14 days in New Zealand's Managed Isolation and Quarantine Facilities.12/03/2021"
Not completely up to date but I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
What?!?!
I fucking hope that is going to change.
If you are vaccinated and test negative two times (before boarding, after arriving), it makes no sense that that you should still need to sit in a fucking hotel room - at your own expense - for two weeks, just to see your Mum.
Yes it does at the moment. Sadly.
I get that some countries are able to be risk assessed well regarding vaccinations but there has to be a lowest denominator approach to avoid cries of favouritism or racism as happened when restrictions were placed on travel originating in India because testing certificates were not trusted.Shit. This could mean it is a looooong time before some people are able to go to NZ without being quarantined, despite being vaccinated.
I hope NZ trusts Taiwan (or is it Republic of China in NZ).
You say it is because some countries might cry racsim.
Wokeism strikes again.Considering Taiwan and Singapore are at the top of nations regarding covid response, I would like to think we would have a bubble sooner rather than later. I would imagine their precautions make us look like amateur hour
It's very good here, but in the last week or so some Covid has broken out a bit in the north and the govt has not yet been able to trace the source. We have gone to level 2. Mask wearing outside has gone from 70% to 95%+ (at a guess)
Where are you?
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@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
You say it is because some countries might cry racsim.
Wokeism strikes again.Some protests were made, but there has been no backdown resulting from it that I'm aware of. I don't see why that won't eventually (eventually...) transfer into an approach towards vaccinations. There are four very high risk countries currently, despite any woke views: https://covid19.govt.nz/travel-and-the-border/travel-to-new-zealand/restrictions-on-travel-to-new-zealand-from-very-high-risk-countries/
The risk assessment about vaccinations will be the extent to which you can trust a document from somewhere. Or whether a travel bubble gets there first in some cases in the Pacific/Asia.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@crucial said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@gt12 said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@frank said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If you have the vaccination in another country, does NZ still require you to quarantine when you return?
"If you have received a COVID-19 vaccination overseas, you will still need to secure a voucher and complete 14 days in New Zealand's Managed Isolation and Quarantine Facilities.12/03/2021"
Not completely up to date but I haven't heard anything to the contrary.
What?!?!
I fucking hope that is going to change.
If you are vaccinated and test negative two times (before boarding, after arriving), it makes no sense that that you should still need to sit in a fucking hotel room - at your own expense - for two weeks, just to see your Mum.
Yes it does at the moment. Sadly.
I get that some countries are able to be risk assessed well regarding vaccinations but there has to be a lowest denominator approach to avoid cries of favouritism or racism as happened when restrictions were placed on travel originating in India because testing certificates were not trusted.Shit. This could mean it is a looooong time before some people are able to go to NZ without being quarantined, despite being vaccinated.
I hope NZ trusts Taiwan (or is it Republic of China in NZ).
You say it is because some countries might cry racsim.
Wokeism strikes again.Considering Taiwan and Singapore are at the top of nations regarding covid response, I would like to think we would have a bubble sooner rather than later. I would imagine their precautions make us look like amateur hour
It's very good here, but in the last week or so some Covid has broken out a bit in the north and the govt has not yet been able to trace the source. We have gone to level 2. Mask wearing outside has gone from 70% to 95%+ (at a guess)
Where are you?
Taiwan.