The new wine thread
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@canefan said in The new wine thread:
@snowy said in The new wine thread:
@jc said in The new wine thread:
@smudge I honestly prefer Pinot Gris to SB now. I used to find them sweet but there’s a lot nowadays that are drier while still having the PG fruit. It’s now my go-to on a nice summers day.
This. Plenty of dry ones around now. Can even find a decent Riesling that isn't a bottle full of sickliness these days. Not a pleasant experience if you get it wrong though.
Dry riesling is so underrated and underpriced for what you get. I've always loved Felton Rd dry riesling with it's bouquet of dried apricots, and Kusuda riesling from Martinborough was and maybe still is a cult classic
Massive fan of dry riesling, a lot of it ages extremely well as well. can open up like a chardonnay when aged too. Dry ones in Aussie are predominantly but not exclusively Clare valley based and because Riesling isn't the most popular variety you can get some really good examples for a good price.
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@canefan said in The new wine thread:
@snowy said in The new wine thread:
@jc said in The new wine thread:
@smudge I honestly prefer Pinot Gris to SB now. I used to find them sweet but there’s a lot nowadays that are drier while still having the PG fruit. It’s now my go-to on a nice summers day.
This. Plenty of dry ones around now. Can even find a decent Riesling that isn't a bottle full of sickliness these days. Not a pleasant experience if you get it wrong though.
Dry riesling is so underrated and underpriced for what you get. I've always loved Felton Rd dry riesling with it's bouquet of dried apricots, and Kusuda riesling from Martinborough was and maybe still is a cult classic
I totally agree, I wonder if a cheap/bad riesling and chardonnay experience in particular, put people off completely. IMO some grape varieties make more put off bad wines than others but I'm no sommelier so that could be a bullshit opinion..
But there are some very bad and cheap rieslings out there...
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@nostrildamus said in The new wine thread:
@canefan said in The new wine thread:
@snowy said in The new wine thread:
@jc said in The new wine thread:
@smudge I honestly prefer Pinot Gris to SB now. I used to find them sweet but there’s a lot nowadays that are drier while still having the PG fruit. It’s now my go-to on a nice summers day.
This. Plenty of dry ones around now. Can even find a decent Riesling that isn't a bottle full of sickliness these days. Not a pleasant experience if you get it wrong though.
Dry riesling is so underrated and underpriced for what you get. I've always loved Felton Rd dry riesling with it's bouquet of dried apricots, and Kusuda riesling from Martinborough was and maybe still is a cult classic
I totally agree, I wonder if a cheap/bad riesling and chardonnay experience in particular, put people off completely. IMO some grape varieties make more put off bad wines than others but I'm no sommelier so that could be a bullshit opinion..
But there are some very bad and cheap rieslings out there...
Same goes with Pinot Noir. Plenty of lolly water pretending to be wine.
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@crucial said in The new wine thread:
@nostrildamus said in The new wine thread:
@canefan said in The new wine thread:
@snowy said in The new wine thread:
@jc said in The new wine thread:
@smudge I honestly prefer Pinot Gris to SB now. I used to find them sweet but there’s a lot nowadays that are drier while still having the PG fruit. It’s now my go-to on a nice summers day.
This. Plenty of dry ones around now. Can even find a decent Riesling that isn't a bottle full of sickliness these days. Not a pleasant experience if you get it wrong though.
Dry riesling is so underrated and underpriced for what you get. I've always loved Felton Rd dry riesling with it's bouquet of dried apricots, and Kusuda riesling from Martinborough was and maybe still is a cult classic
I totally agree, I wonder if a cheap/bad riesling and chardonnay experience in particular, put people off completely. IMO some grape varieties make more put off bad wines than others but I'm no sommelier so that could be a bullshit opinion..
But there are some very bad and cheap rieslings out there...
Same goes with Pinot Noir. Plenty of lolly water pretending to be wine.
I've been lucky then with Pinot Noir but then I generally pick NZ ones.
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I'm done with Pinot, it's waaaay more miss than hit (even from Central Otago) and you need to spend to get even half decent.
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@mariner4life said in The new wine thread:
I'm done with Pinot, it's waaaay more miss than hit (even from Central Otago) and you need to spend to get even half decent.
I love it. Buy from a knowledgeable merchant and its all good. Generally speaking if you spend around 25 bucks or more it is all good
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@mariner4life said in The new wine thread:
I'm done with Pinot, it's waaaay more miss than hit (even from Central Otago) and you need to spend to get even half decent.
preach it dude, nailed it
I don't love it, will drink it at a pinch, but generally just give it to my dad when I get gifted it. It's not 'bad', it's just not in my wheelhouse...
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My happy place is a malbec. A cheeky merlot on a summers evening. Tempranillo or syrah will be met with an appreciative smile. Mrs Antipodean likes pinots but I find them too close to coloured white wine.
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@antipodean said in The new wine thread:
My happy place is a malbec. A cheeky merlot on a summers evening. Tempranillo or syrah will be met with an appreciative smile. Mrs Antipodean likes pinots but I find them too close to coloured white wine.
I love a nice Argentinian malbec with a nice steak
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I still like good pinot however I am also well aware of how hard it is to find good ones that are not over priced (especially in Australia), but still have some depth in flavour.
I think I have found good examples of most varieties, so find it hard to say exactly what are my favourites. A good spanish Grenache is easy to drink in most seasons.
Actually also enjoying through this winter period, heating some of the cheaper reds that I have been gifted, adding spices and orange peel for a good mulled wine.
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@bayimports i am loving Grenache at the moment
both on its own, and in a GSM
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Spent last week in Napier and visited new 'Oenothèque" in Havelock North. Smith and Sheth. Had a flight of 8 wines. You would struggle to find a higher class of wine piston wristed gibbon than the somelier who talked us through the wines "and this one comes from 150 metres higher up the slope. You will of course discern the subtle change in character and the hint of wild lavender on the palate". Hilarious stuff.
Nevertheless they do have some very good wines. I'm not a Sav lover but their Wairau was good - bone dry and flinty.
Also enjoyed the Cantera which is a Cabernet/Tempranillo blend from Gimblett
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@dogmeat said in The new wine thread:
"and this one comes from 150 metres higher up the slope. You will of course discern the subtle change in character and the hint of wild lavender on the palate".
That is exactly how I imagine you lot when you are recommending wine!
Last time I had a glass of a lovely Pinot Gris with my stir fry (I'm told it was a nice one) I spilled it all over myself! I don't think wine and I mix well...🤭 -
@r-l said in The new wine thread:
I spilled it all over myself! I don't think wine and I mix well...
Hmmm. I will say no more.
When conversing with wine snobs and they are talking about hints of gooseberries, etc, I just add, "and grapes, I'm getting hints of grape".
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As NZ is in lockdown I figured this thread deserved a nudge
One of the bonuses of lockdown is it motivates me to drink from my (no @Snowy no. Not the cellar) …. stock.
Just decanting a 96 Ch. Meyney St Estephe. Having it a bit later with a spiced venison rack.
Has anyone else been hitting the plonk?
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@dogmeat said in The new wine thread:
As NZ is in lockdown I figured this thread deserved a nudge
One of the bonuses of lockdown is it motivates me to drink from my (no @Snowy no. Not the cellar) …. stock.
Just decanting a 96 Ch. Meyney St Estephe. Having it a bit later with a spiced venison rack.
Has anyone else been hitting the plonk?
Had a few bottles of pinot of late. Most recent was escarpment from Martin borough and a nice Waipara example. North Canterbury is my favourite PN area in NZ