Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final
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@godder said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@mn5 said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Here’s a question to ponder.
If Paddles got picked up by Marty McFly and transported into the future at his peak ( when he was in his 30s ) which of our four pacemen would he displace ?
I mean, he’s fucken Paddles, a better batsman than any of them, better bowler too so no way you don’t select him but which one of our four current champions misses out ?Unpopular as it might seem I’m gonna have to pick Boult.
Colin surely... But of the 4, agree it would be one of the openers, so Boult currently since Southee seems to be getting better with age.
Yep:
- Hadlee
- Jamieson
- Southee
- Wagner
- Boult
- Hadlee used to bat 7, Smith 8, Braces 9 in the games that I vaguely remember
- There was always a suspicion that Hadlee could have has a better batting record if he wasn't having to take wickets at an average of 14 so we could win Tests
- Doesn't matter how supposedly "weak" his batting was, with that bowling attack we wouldn't be relying on runs from the tail to win tests
Boult drops out if we need a spinner, but except for in the sub continent, we don't need a spinner with those five.
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@donsteppa said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Hadlee
Jamieson
Southee
Wagner
Boult... imagine opening batsmen trying to see off that new ball attack. Congrats, you've survived 10 overs against Hadlee and Jamieson somehow. Now Southee will try and nick you out, while Wags will try to take your head off for the second hour. And Trent Boult will bowl the traditional "Mark Waugh" over at you before lunch
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Being a bit younger than some of you folks (though with 3 kids now I feel old as fuck), I started watching cricket in the 90s. After Paddles had retired, and I remember Crowe in the twilight of his career.
One of my memories of watching NZ play a test is being happy we didn't avoid the follow on, as it meant we got to bat again, and I'd rather watch that than watch our bowlers get plundered all over the park, even if we were going to get cleaned up for 150 odd again. Things were just dire.
It's taken me a long time to get my head around the fact that we even have world class players in our side (Ross, Boult etc), let alone the worlds best (Kane). Even harder to come to terms with having a world class team that doesn't just fold at the first sign of adversity.
What a time to be a cricket supporter in NZ. Right now, the Black Caps are a more formidable and more professional side than the All Blacks. I never ever thought I would say that in my life.
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@no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
the Black Caps are a more formidable and more professional side than the All Blacks.
fuck that's true!!
and we can pretty much agree on every selection, and they are in because they are so good, not because they are least average option
The ABs are the total opposite, A-aron Smith is Kane, everyone else is CDGH
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I have not seen one mention of Stead, on here or in the media.
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@crazy-horse said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I have not seen one mention of Stead, on here or in the media.
I've seen versions of the right hand photo doing the rounds on various social media. This is a nice CricTracker meme for him:
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@no-quarter said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
Right now, the Black Caps are a more formidable and more professional side than the All Blacks.
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also, this is supposed to be a happy place, i'm reporting you
big fucking ban hammer for @Snowy
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@donsteppa good to see him being acknowledged.
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@crazy-horse said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I have not seen one mention of Stead, on here or in the media.
I guess that most of feel that he has inherited Hesson's side?
He has of course added Jamieson and Conway but they were no brainers really. I'll give him his give due, he has maintained the progress and as a team, all of them, coaches to players, it clearly gels.
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@mariner4life said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
also, this is supposed to be a happy place, i'm reporting you
big fucking ban hammer for @Snowy
I wasn't looking for that reaction at all....
Here you go, group hug:
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@snowy said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@crazy-horse said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
I have not seen one mention of Stead, on here or in the media.
I guess that most of feel that he has inherited Hesson's side?
He has of course added Jamieson and Conway but they were no brainers really. I'll give him his give due, he has maintained the progress and as a team, all of them, coaches to players, it clearly gels.
An interesting thing for me is the succession of batting coaches - Macca, Fulton and Ronchi. Not necessarily guys that, at first glance, you would have expected to help create a side as good as this - but, they're obviously adding value.
Can't remember quite what the line of succession has been from Bondy to Jurgenson, but a similar thing applies.
It certainly seemed like Shane was very influential in the early development of Southee and Boult, but the following guys have evidently done a good job.
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@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@chris-b Donald may have got the ball rolling...pun😉
We've got to be a bit careful about giving any more Jaapies any credit.
Next thing they'll be want to put a grubby hand on our mace!
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@chris-b said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@siam said in Cricket 2021: NZ in England and WTC Final:
@chris-b Donald may have got the ball rolling...pun😉
We've got to be a bit careful about giving any more Jaapies any credit.
Next thing they'll be want to put a grubby hand on our mace!
At least 3 of them already have, and they all earnt it too.
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BJ came here when he was 10 so I don't consider him a poach
Wags might have been 12th man for SA twice but he's now a dinky di Kiwi...
Conway's just another Saffa who genuinely came here because of his love for L&P - cricketing opportunities never entered his head
The Big Man is obviously a westie with that mullet
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@dogmeat None of it matters.
We're probably not going to be hearing from Stephen for a bit, anyway.
I've got a feeling that England might have fielded a team with 6 or even 7 foreign born players back in the days of Lamb, Hick, the Smiths, Small, De Freitas, Devon Malcolm et al.
