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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @kiwiwomble said in Smart TVs:

    whats the difference between a QLED and OLED?

    QLED is a Samsung tech.

    OLED is fundamentally different to LED while QLED is 'enhanced' LED.

    Samsung claims that OLED has a tendency over time to burn in images eg a corner logo if you watch one channel all the time.

    QLED relies on a backlight while OLED pixels emit their own light and have better viewing angles.

    Some side by side reviewers will say OLED wins out every time probably because not all QLED TVs are the same quality.

    If your aim is best picture quality then look for a TV with Dolby Vision. A 'cheap' TV with DV will look better than an expensive one without.

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    @roninwc said in Smart TVs:

    @jc said in Smart TVs:

    @roninwc I don't think Samsung make OLED panels in TV sizes. Their QLED TVs aren't OLEDs. They don't have any OLED TVs on their website either.

    As far as I know if you want an OLED TV you're getting an LG panel.

    Brian Westover  /  Apr 16, 2021  /  OLED TVs

    Is Samsung finally making an OLED TV? Not so fast

    Is Samsung finally making an OLED TV? Not so fast

    Rumors suggest Samsung is buying millions of LG OLED panels, but Samsung OLED TVs may not be a sure thing.

    Samsung make the QLED which is just a slightly different version of the OLED.

    And Samsung make their own but because any OLED still uses an LCD panel as a part of the construction, they don't make the whole panel.

    All that Quantum Dot stuff is their own as well. Just a refinement of the QLED/OLED.

    I don't think that's right.

    OLED is a self-emissive new technology in its own right - the pixels themselves produce the light and there is no backlight. That means that the individual pixels can be turned off altogether, producing a "true black".

    QLED is a (far) better version of traditional LCD technology, with a coloured filter in front of a backlight, with the Q ("Quantum") part referring to the fineness of the filter. Samsung have upgraded it to Neo QLED which means they are using more, smaller mini-LEDs in the backlight to give greater control over the light that passes through the filter, but there is still a backlight. The pixels are not self-emissive and a black is dependent on turning off the backlight at the right location, so there is potential for bleed from adjacent LEDs, meaning getting an absolute black is more difficult.

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    QLED is just a marketing term, they're just VA type LCD panels.

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    have to say, to a layman when it comes to marketing and tv apparently...using the term OLED for what seems to be quite a different approach...we'll it seems like theyre underselling themselves

    I know id always assumed it was just just the never version of my current LED tv

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    Oled is the better picture. Qled is brighter.

    As long as your room is not full of dazzling sunshine go oled.

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    @billy-tell said in Smart TVs:

    Oled is the better picture. Qled is brighter.

    As long as your room is not full of dazzling sunshine go oled.

    The picture is amazing. They do black really well and somehow it makes it look super lifelike

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @crucial I use firestick as well - added advantage can be an Alexa hub. Not aware of any overseas account options though....

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    @dogmeat said in Smart TVs:

    @crucial I use firestick as well - added advantage can be an Alexa hub. Not aware of any overseas account options though....

    Amazon link the firestick to your account before sending it to you (or you sign in to it. However, if your account is a UK one you can only download UK apps, same if a US or NZ one.

    So if you have one signed into your NZ Amazon account you probably can't install say BBC iPlayer app.
    However a firestick signed into a UK account but plugged in here will.
    Pretty simple to start a dummy UK Amazon account. Just borrow an address.

    You will need to set up a BBC sign in but for that you only need a postcode.

    The app however will pick up that you are in NZ and won't play unless you use a VPN. As Mrs C is tech incapable I have also put an appon the stick called Streamlocator which for a small monthly sub will give you access. It works a little differently to a straight out VPN and basically gets the stream feed for you then passes it through. Works well.

    Therefore we have just kept our old Amazon account from the UK and for 7.99NZ get to access all og the UK on-demand stuff including Football, 6N and F1 etc.
    Good for those brit dramas that take a little while to appear here.
    Side bonus is that you can flick between Netflix and Disney countries which gives you a wider range of shows.

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @crucial ah my amazon account is US

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    I just use a computer and a VPN and a BBC account with a fake address. The VPN has a mobile app so it also works for the IPlayer app on my tablet.

    If anyone remembers the good old days and plasma vs LCD, OLED vs QLED is basically the same debate with better pictures.

    A reason to get brand TVs over Warehouse brands like Veon is the inbuilt computer is faster so they turn on faster and change channels faster.

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    I miss the days when you could just go and buy a TV and not get confused with all this shit. I gave up buying a sound system on more than one occasion because I couldn't decide. I would have no chance picking a TV.

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    @mariner4life said in Smart TVs:

    @bayimports said in Smart TVs:

    seriously all of you comparing 42" and 50" kitchen size tvs..

    minimum 65" or you dont watch enough 🙂

    anything using AI to improve upscaling in movement not just colours is useful regardless of brand (although very few doing this), but price is important.

    Havent gone 8k yet..price still way to high

    i have a 65 outside used only for sport and racing. it's fucking awesome

    that size in the media room would be ridiculous though

    This guy eh? Telling us what does and doesn't work for his outside sports viewing and his "media room"!

    Who knows what he has inside in the lounge and the bedroom!

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    @voodoo remote control riser?

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    so being a bit of a dumb bugger. best value is to get cheap tv and a android box and connect to a speaker system.
    in reality does not even need to be a smart tv? if using a external box. (is this even possible)
    if this is correct any suggestions for external box?
    cheers in advance

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    @ploughboy Can you even get non Smart TVs these days? But if you’re getting an Android box (shudder) then you can disregard what the TV has when choosing which helps. Then you can just set your budget and pick a decent cheap brand.

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    @nepia cheers
    any streaming box recommendation then

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    @ploughboy said in Smart TVs:

    @nepia cheers
    any streaming box recommendation then

    Oh, I'm an Apple TV guy (as mentioned above) but understand not everyone is as keen on them, or willing to fork out the cash for them. (Their 4k Apple TV seems very expensive these days).

    I'm just not an Android guy, hence the shudder. I'm sure some of the Android fans on here can give you some recommendations as I have no idea outside of Chromecast which I don't consider a box (if I had any idea where my Chromecast was I would have happily donated it to you, but I just had a look in my usual old tech drawer and it's not there).

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    @nepia cheers input appreciated

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    @ploughboy What do you want to watch with a streaming box? Vodafone TV could be an option as long as you have an unlimited fibre plan. I've no first-hand experience of this box as I use an Apple TV as well.

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    @bovidae
    got unlimited broadband. netflix and trying to get away from skybox so watch more streaming of sport ,so sport on internet. pretty basic

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