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Oh and my opinion on Casey's opinion? I'm all for women's rugby, but it simply must be self-sustaining at the professional level. IF the product can't draw enough support be it through tickets, sponsorship, merch, TV rights or whatever, to pay for itself then yes, it's a fact that it's being propped up financially by the NZRU and we've probably lost players overseas as a result. I'm pretty sure that's what he was trying to express.
But Casey is still a moron in general.
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The play would seem to be live sports rights with the major rights holders and that line up plus the culling of Casey seems to be right in line with being a safe platform for NZC/NZRU to "partner" with...
The strange thing about that line up is with Pine gone there isn't anyone who is half decent at talkback and there aren't any announcements on live sports rights. So the two things that you would think we would be the bread and butter of a sports station are big question marks.
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Oh and my opinion on Casey's opinion? I'm all for women's rugby, but it simply must be self-sustaining at the professional level. IF the product can't draw enough support be it through tickets, sponsorship, merch, TV rights or whatever, to pay for itself then yes, it's a fact that it's being propped up financially by the NZRU and we've probably lost players overseas as a result. I'm pretty sure that's what he was trying to express.
But Casey is still a moron in general.
Misogynist
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Due to go to air Monday the 19th and officially launched a couple weeks back, they've just sacked Sam Casey over a column he wrote for Rugby News which has been deemed to be sexist, and Jason Pine has resigned. The stuff article I read hints that Pine may have resigned in protest after the Casey instant dismissal. By Crikey I hope none of the other hosts ever express a minority opinion or any opinion potentially unpopular with the vocal minority.
Which brings me to a particularly uninspiring cast of presenters:
The presenting lineup includes Brendon McCullum, Israel Dagg, Ian Smith, Mark Stafford, Rikki Swannell, Kirstie Stanway and Stephen Donald.
So we have to suffer through more of Dagg, the TAB guy and the ever-present Kirstie Stanway. Can't they find some original talent rather than regurgitate what Sky already serves up. Its Stanway saturation. Swannell I don't mind except in commentary when she screeches everything. I'm sure Baz will be good and I always have time for Smithy. Donald? Great voice for radio so we'll see but promising for sure.
Back to Casey and whilst I don't want to see him on the breadline, perhaps it's time he goes and finds a real job. He's an immature, extreme fan-boy with the heaviest, most stereotypical accent you've ever heard and he grates my ears.
At least you can’t see his hair on the radio.
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As I have previously mentioned I often listen to the ZB sports show on Saturday and Sunday arvos., and with Devlin blotting his copybook it's evident that there is a lack of replacement talent, where you've got a guy with with a good sports knowledge and semi comedic and upbeat delivery.
Both Smith and Davis are listenable (Smith at he serious end, Davis more an entertainer, but was annoying me with his half truths ago how NZR screw the islands), just not as good.
Where's @Gibbit when you need him?
What is the go with Gold AM? Apparently on the Radio Sport frequencies. Is it sports leaning, (they had the cricket comms I beleve) or farm stuff?
Hopefully SENZ have a recording/podcast fonction like ZB and Radio Sport so I can check them out.
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As I have previously mentioned I often listen to the ZB sports show on Saturday and Sunday arvos., and with Devlin blotting his copybook it's evident that there is a lack of replacement talent, where you've got a guy with with a good sports knowledge and semi comedic and upbeat delivery.
Both Smith and Davis are listenable (Smith at he serious end, Davis more an entertainer, but was annoying me with his half truths ago how NZR screw the islands), just not as good.
Where's @Gibbit when you need him?
What is the go with Gold AM? Apparently on the Radio Sport frequencies. Is it sports leaning, (they had the cricket comms I beleve) or farm stuff?
Hopefully SENZ have a recording/podcast fonction like ZB and Radio Sport so I can check them out.
That's stretching the term 'semi-comedic' to it's absolute extreme. I'm stoked Devlin is gone; what a piston wristed gibbon. That stupid voice he put on as an attempted piss-take of anyone in marketing, and carrying on about the "dick pic" generation (umm hello Marty, what have YOU been up to yourself, Captain Appropriate??). Such a tosser.
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As I have previously mentioned I often listen to the ZB sports show on Saturday and Sunday arvos., and with Devlin blotting his copybook it's evident that there is a lack of replacement talent, where you've got a guy with with a good sports knowledge and semi comedic and upbeat delivery.
Both Smith and Davis are listenable (Smith at he serious end, Davis more an entertainer, but was annoying me with his half truths ago how NZR screw the islands), just not as good.
Where's @Gibbit when you need him?
What is the go with Gold AM? Apparently on the Radio Sport frequencies. Is it sports leaning, (they had the cricket comms I beleve) or farm stuff?
Hopefully SENZ have a recording/podcast fonction like ZB and Radio Sport so I can check them out.
That's stretching the term 'semi-comedic' to it's absolute extreme. I'm stoked Devlin is gone; what a piston wristed gibbon. That stupid voice he put on as an attempted piss-take of anyone in marketing, and carrying on about the "dick pic" generation (umm hello Marty, what have YOU been up to yourself, Captain Appropriate??). Such a tosser.
When RS first started I really liked Devlin. His breakfast show was actually one of the things I missed the most when I moved to Aussie.
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As I have previously mentioned I often listen to the ZB sports show on Saturday and Sunday arvos., and with Devlin blotting his copybook it's evident that there is a lack of replacement talent, where you've got a guy with with a good sports knowledge and semi comedic and upbeat delivery.
Both Smith and Davis are listenable (Smith at he serious end, Davis more an entertainer, but was annoying me with his half truths ago how NZR screw the islands), just not as good.
Where's @Gibbit when you need him?
What is the go with Gold AM? Apparently on the Radio Sport frequencies. Is it sports leaning, (they had the cricket comms I beleve) or farm stuff?
Hopefully SENZ have a recording/podcast fonction like ZB and Radio Sport so I can check them out.
That's stretching the term 'semi-comedic' to it's absolute extreme. I'm stoked Devlin is gone; what a piston wristed gibbon. That stupid voice he put on as an attempted piss-take of anyone in marketing, and carrying on about the "dick pic" generation (umm hello Marty, what have YOU been up to yourself, Captain Appropriate??). Such a tosser.
It’s odd, I agree with all you say but his manic ramblings did make for some good radio despite all his flaws. He was better than any of the others in my opinion.
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Oh and my opinion on Casey's opinion? I'm all for women's rugby, but it simply must be self-sustaining at the professional level. IF the product can't draw enough support be it through tickets, sponsorship, merch, TV rights or whatever, to pay for itself then yes, it's a fact that it's being propped up financially by the NZRU and we've probably lost players overseas as a result. I'm pretty sure that's what he was trying to express.
But Casey is still a moron in general.
I don't really see any point for professional womens rugby. It needs to pay for itself or be part of the pyramid that produces the part that pays for it all.
I can see the point of a professional womens 7s squad funded by NZRYU (and probably HPSNZ).
Is it (15s) professional? Genuine question.
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Both Smith and Davis are listenable (Smith at he serious end, Davis more an entertainer, but was annoying me with his half truths ago how NZR screw the islands), just not as good.
The is no mention of Miles Davis in the lineup announced above, presumably he is the replacement for Jason Pine.
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I don't really see any point for professional womens rugby. It needs to pay for itself or be part of the pyramid that produces the part that pays for it all.
I can see the point of a professional womens 7s squad funded by NZRYU (and probably HPSNZ).
Hope you don't have a job you could lose...
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I don't really see any point for professional womens rugby. It needs to pay for itself or be part of the pyramid that produces the part that pays for it all.
I can see the point of a professional womens 7s squad funded by NZRYU (and probably HPSNZ).
Hope you don't have a job you could lose...
So, it is already professional?
I don't get it.
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I don't really see any point for professional womens rugby. It needs to pay for itself or be part of the pyramid that produces the part that pays for it all.
I can see the point of a professional womens 7s squad funded by NZRYU (and probably HPSNZ).
Hope you don't have a job you could lose...
So, it is already professional?
I don't get it.
Modern pack culture misinterprets a legitimately held viewpoint with cynical, evil sexism. It's already cost one bloke his job, and my jibe was that you could be next.
I think women's sport can build a great following and go professional - but it has to build it's way there; you don't create a market overnight. Funding is critical in that, and every piece of funding will be looked at very closely in light of the cratered revenues after Covid. But if (as Sam whatisface did) you conclude that a fully pro women's comp may not be a smart idea, and takes revenue away from the Mens game, you'll lose your job. I don't fully agree with him at all - but it's a funny society we are living in at the moment.
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I don't really see any point for professional womens rugby. It needs to pay for itself or be part of the pyramid that produces the part that pays for it all.
I can see the point of a professional womens 7s squad funded by NZRYU (and probably HPSNZ).
Hope you don't have a job you could lose...
So, it is already professional?
I don't get it.
Modern pack culture misinterprets a legitimately held viewpoint with cynical, evil sexism. It's already cost one bloke his job, and my jibe was that you could be next.
I think women's sport can build a great following and go professional - but it has to build it's way there; you don't create a market overnight. Funding is critical in that, and every piece of funding will be looked at very closely in light of the cratered revenues after Covid. But if (as Sam whatisface did) you conclude that a fully pro women's comp may not be a smart idea, and takes revenue away from the Mens game, you'll lose your job. I don't fully agree with him at all - but it's a funny society we are living in at the moment.
Ah, got ya. Casey losing his job ...
i thought you were either getting all high horse and implying I was advocating some already professional female players lose their pro playing jobs.
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That it was too difficult to play top amateur pro rugby and women players would risk losing their normal jobs.
On the actual subject. Amateur rugby was awesome. Don't throw that away.
No way do I think women's rugby should go down a soul-less route of playing subsidised pro rugby to no crowds. Yes, I think NZ central money should be used to organise tours and tournament prep, and pay the basics of an amateur Farah palmer Cup. Like they do Heartland and U20s etc. Just like the NZRU have done for the many sectors below senior mens for 125 years.
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No way do I think women's rugby should go down a soul-less route of playing subsidised pro rugby to no crowds. Yes, I think NZ central money should be used to organise tours and tournament prep, and pay the basics of an amateur Farah palmer Cup. Like they do Heartland and U20s etc. Just like the NZRU have done for the many sectors below senior mens for 125 years.
We also have to figure out how seriously we want to compete with England. They have an all-pro womens rugby team. The reality is that for us to compete, we have to get close to that; the win we had over them at the last WRWC final was truly remarkable.
To do that sustainably though, you need players at the grass roots, a meaningful amateur comp, and then enough pros or semi-pros to make up a representative team. Funding that aint' cheap - so you need fans, both physically or their eyeballs. At the very least you need a clear pathway to getting fans engaged long term (and sponsors, etc). I'm all for it, but it's not a slam dunk quite yet.
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Both Smith and Davis are listenable (Smith at he serious end, Davis more an entertainer, but was annoying me with his half truths ago how NZR screw the islands), just not as good.
The is no mention of Miles Davis in the lineup announced above, presumably he is the replacement for Jason Pine.
Elliott Smith and Davis are standing in on ZB.
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No way do I think women's rugby should go down a soul-less route of playing subsidised pro rugby to no crowds. Yes, I think NZ central money should be used to organise tours and tournament prep, and pay the basics of an amateur Farah palmer Cup. Like they do Heartland and U20s etc. Just like the NZRU have done for the many sectors below senior mens for 125 years.
We also have to figure out how seriously we want to compete with England. They have an all-pro womens rugby team. The reality is that for us to compete, we have to get close to that; the win we had over them at the last WRWC final was truly remarkable.
To do that sustainably though, you need players at the grass roots, a meaningful amateur comp, and then enough pros or semi-pros to make up a representative team. Funding that aint' cheap - so you need fans, both physically or their eyeballs. At the very least you need a clear pathway to getting fans engaged long term (and sponsors, etc). I'm all for it, but it's not a slam dunk quite yet.
Somebody say Silverlake?
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Both Smith and Davis are listenable (Smith at he serious end, Davis more an entertainer, but was annoying me with his half truths ago how NZR screw the islands), just not as good.
The is no mention of Miles Davis in the lineup announced above, presumably he is the replacement for Jason Pine.
Now HE is good value. Bloody nice fella to have a beer with at the pub albeit about 15 or so years ago. On ZB he has a priceless ability to make otherwise boring topics seem interesting which was a godsend in the old company car that had a Japanese radio.
