Coronavirus - UK
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@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
That's why we need to go about our lives.
That time is now.
Not some indeterminate time in the future.I think the scientists and the government pretty much agree with you
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@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
That's why we need to go about our lives.
That time is now.
Not some indeterminate time in the future.I think the scientists and the government pretty much agree with you
For now
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@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
@mikethesnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
That's why we need to go about our lives.
That time is now.
Not some indeterminate time in the future.I think the scientists and the government pretty much agree with you
1200 scientists don't apparently. Although whether they are scientists in the correct field to have a respectful opinion, is of course another matter.
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@majorrage said in Coronavirus - UK:
1200 scientists don't apparently. Although whether they are scientists in the correct field to have a respectful opinion, is of course another matter.
I seem to recall the list of 1,200 "scientists" opposed to relaxing the restrictions was obtained by allowing anyone to sign a petition on the internet. I think Guido Fawkes signed up as a Professor of Antimony....
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Michael Baker leading NZ epidemiologist signed the letter. As I've said before I have read a lot of negative comment from relevant scientists - but who knows Fingers crossed for the UK experiment.
Reports here that 24 hours after Freedom day there are restrictions being placed on night clubs?
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
Michael Baker leading NZ epidemiologist signed the letter. As I've said before I have read a lot of negative comment from relevant scientists - but who knows Fingers crossed for the UK experiment.
Reports here that 24 hours after Freedom day there are restrictions being placed on night clubs?
Only restriction I've heard of is you will have to be double jabbed to enter.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
Michael Baker leading NZ epidemiologist signed the letter. As I've said before I have read a lot of negative comment from relevant scientists - but who knows Fingers crossed for the UK experiment.
Reports here that 24 hours after Freedom day there are restrictions being placed on night clubs?
Professor Baker calls the UK approach a "barbaric experiment". He's possibly unaware of the winter flu issue in the UK - which cold kill up to 40k more people than the normal 20k as natural immunity hasn't built up due to lockdown.
I'm sure Professor Baker is very capable, but frankly, I'd rather believe the experts on the ground like Chris Whitty and JVT than a bloke 12,000 miles away.
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@bones said in Coronavirus - UK:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - UK:
Michael Baker leading NZ epidemiologist signed the letter. As I've said before I have read a lot of negative comment from relevant scientists - but who knows Fingers crossed for the UK experiment.
Reports here that 24 hours after Freedom day there are restrictions being placed on night clubs?
Only restriction I've heard of is you will have to be double jabbed to enter.
I was thinking that’s unfair on people that are afraid of needles but then thought waaait a minute.
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if you can't beat 'em, join 'em
Keir Starmer to isolate after his child tests positive for Covid
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - UK:
Picked from a tweet - but looks really promising so far. Vaccination really is a game changer
Great to see the shapes of those graphs but vaccination isn’t the only factor.
Most of the UK vulnerable have already passed away with Covid.
And by all normal measures of virus development successive strains are more virulent but less harmful.
Countries which chose eradication and who are waiting on majority vaccination will see deaths once they’re ‘open’
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@mikethesnow it will be very interesting to see what effect vaccination has on death rates in those susceptible groups
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - UK:
@mikethesnow it will be very interesting to see what effect vaccination has on death rates in those susceptible groups
It should have an effect on those at risk too. But as @MiketheSnow implied it is rarely just one thing. Culling of the susceptible will have an effect, vaccines will have an effect, rising herd immunity will have an effect.
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@catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - UK:
@mikethesnow it will be very interesting to see what effect vaccination has on death rates in those susceptible groups
It should have an effect on those at risk too. But as @MiketheSnow implied it is rarely just one thing. Culling of the susceptible will have an effect, vaccines will have an effect, rising herd immunity will have an effect.
Multifactorial yes
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I’d be interested to hear other UK ferners views on freedom day. Locally to us, it seems not much of a change in attitudes and application. A bit less mask wearing, but similar social distancing, a little more flexibility about which doors we go in and out in public places (Ok I mean the pub), by otherwise fairly much as you were.
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@catogrande Only difference to my life is not wearing a mask in the pub or a cafe.
Most people seem sensible, some reports of people on the Tube not wearing masks.