Coronavirus - Australia
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@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@bayimports said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta said in Coronavirus - Australia:
163 cases in NSW, with 76 "under investigation" i.e. we have no fucking idea.
And following that a bunch of these retards get together in Sydney to protest.
potentially 15000 unmasked protesters doing their thing from Broadway to the City
thanks guys
How on earth does this go ahead?
i have no idea..i really can't believe it
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@bayimports said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@bayimports said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta said in Coronavirus - Australia:
163 cases in NSW, with 76 "under investigation" i.e. we have no fucking idea.
And following that a bunch of these retards get together in Sydney to protest.
potentially 15000 unmasked protesters doing their thing from Broadway to the City
thanks guys
How on earth does this go ahead?
i have no idea..i really can't believe it
I'm glad I made a decision to walk left out my front door today for my exercise. If I'd gone right, or if I was meeting my niece to exercise with I would have bumped into this dipshits at some stage.
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Of course some human rights lawyer will rubbish my plan, but then these idiots are threating MY human rights, so...
I've heard second hand about people I know being there and having a go. Some of them are unable to go to work and therefore losing income and angry about it. I get that. There will be a cadre of Sovereign Citizen chuds who just like to say "Magna Carta" a lot as well as some randoms who just want to get out of the house and myabe punch a horse ...
If the government at both state and federal level had a simple plan to execute income support alongside a hard lockdown in rapid (<48 hr) fashion, this sort of shit wouldn't happen.
There's a lot of short term thinking going on, and it isn't just isolated to the fuckwits marching today.
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man I wish we (and Aus) were further down the path with vaccinations!!
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Australia:
man I wish we (and Aus) were further down the path with vaccinations!!
Yep. On the whole, I think the Oz and NZ approach would have worked out (may still work out?) to be one of the best had we both genuinely been “front of the queue” rather than ‘last in the OECD’ when it came to the vaccines.
NZ is one delta outbreak away from Hipkins strongly regretting that front of the queue statement and not paying the alleged extra $40 mill to Pfizer for priority deliveries (https://www.downtoearth.kiwi/post/a-question-to-health-minister-hipkins). The Australian vaccine situation seems even more inexplicable given AZ vaccines were also actively in the mix.
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta you waved goodbye to August and September, I reckon these guys cost us October as as well
At this point is there any appetite in NSW to basically accept some level of COVID from here on out and perhaps go for a softer lockdown for longer (mandatory masks indoors, no big events etc, caps on retail etc) rather than a harder lockdown in the hopes of achieving 0 cases again?
Looking at Canada's experience the vaccine ramp up and weather should play into Australia's favour from here on out and things could be kept at a manageable level.
What will the appetite be to lift any border restrictions in Q1 2022 once max vaccination has been achieved if everyone spent the better part of 3-4 months in lockdown less than six months earlier?
Much easier to accept 10 cases a day coming from 100 rather than 0.
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@donsteppa said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Australia:
man I wish we (and Aus) were further down the path with vaccinations!!
Yep. On the whole, I think the Oz and NZ approach would have worked out (may still work out?) to be one of the best had we both genuinely been “front of the queue” rather than ‘last in the OECD’ when it came to the vaccines.
NZ is one delta outbreak away from Hipkins strongly regretting that front of the queue statement and not paying the alleged extra $40 mill to Pfizer for priority deliveries (https://www.downtoearth.kiwi/post/a-question-to-health-minister-hipkins). The Australian vaccine situation seems even more inexplicable given AZ vaccines were also actively in the mix.
One thing Aus did that I really like, orvliked given that gambled on AZ, was tool up to manufacture their own vaccines on shore.
COVID is not going away in a hurry, and we're going to need annual boosters you'd think. Would unlikely be a wasted investment.
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@rotated said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta you waved goodbye to August and September, I reckon these guys cost us October as as well
At this point is there any appetite in NSW to basically accept some level of COVID from here on out and perhaps go for a softer lockdown for longer (mandatory masks indoors, no big events etc, caps on retail etc) rather than a harder lockdown in the hopes of achieving 0 cases again?
Looking at Canada's experience the vaccine ramp up and weather should play into Australia's favour from here on out and things could be kept at a manageable level.
What will the appetite be to lift any border restrictions in Q1 2022 once max vaccination has been achieved if everyone spent the better part of 3-4 months in lockdown less than six months earlier?
Much easier to accept 10 cases a day coming from 100 rather than 0.
It's definitely been discussed at NSW parliament. The issue is that if we don't get back to zero, we become a leper island until the narrative changes across the entire country. We won't be able to leave NSW at all.
But there may not be any other option at this stage, it's starting to feel like this has gotten away from us and zero isn't going to be possible.
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@booboo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@donsteppa said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Australia:
man I wish we (and Aus) were further down the path with vaccinations!!
Yep. On the whole, I think the Oz and NZ approach would have worked out (may still work out?) to be one of the best had we both genuinely been “front of the queue” rather than ‘last in the OECD’ when it came to the vaccines.
NZ is one delta outbreak away from Hipkins strongly regretting that front of the queue statement and not paying the alleged extra $40 mill to Pfizer for priority deliveries (https://www.downtoearth.kiwi/post/a-question-to-health-minister-hipkins). The Australian vaccine situation seems even more inexplicable given AZ vaccines were also actively in the mix.
One thing Aus did that I really like, orvliked given that gambled on AZ, was tool up to manufacture their own vaccines on shore.
COVID is not going away in a hurry, and we're going to need annual boosters you'd think. Would unlikely be a wasted investment.
And then proceeded to screw up the messaging completely on AZ to the point that nobody wanted to take it. 🤦
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@booboo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@donsteppa said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Australia:
man I wish we (and Aus) were further down the path with vaccinations!!
Yep. On the whole, I think the Oz and NZ approach would have worked out (may still work out?) to be one of the best had we both genuinely been “front of the queue” rather than ‘last in the OECD’ when it came to the vaccines.
NZ is one delta outbreak away from Hipkins strongly regretting that front of the queue statement and not paying the alleged extra $40 mill to Pfizer for priority deliveries (https://www.downtoearth.kiwi/post/a-question-to-health-minister-hipkins). The Australian vaccine situation seems even more inexplicable given AZ vaccines were also actively in the mix.
One thing Aus did that I really like, orvliked given that gambled on AZ, was tool up to manufacture their own vaccines on shore.
COVID is not going away in a hurry, and we're going to need annual boosters you'd think. Would unlikely be a wasted investment.
And then proceeded to screw up the messaging completely on AZ to the point that nobody wanted to take it. 🤦
Well they're now fixing that but advising everyone to get fucking anything they can.
Maybe a few of the idiots will die from blood clots.
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@rotated said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@voodoo said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta you waved goodbye to August and September, I reckon these guys cost us October as as well
At this point is there any appetite in NSW to basically accept some level of COVID from here on out and perhaps go for a softer lockdown for longer (mandatory masks indoors, no big events etc, caps on retail etc) rather than a harder lockdown in the hopes of achieving 0 cases again?
Looking at Canada's experience the vaccine ramp up and weather should play into Australia's favour from here on out and things could be kept at a manageable level.
What will the appetite be to lift any border restrictions in Q1 2022 once max vaccination has been achieved if everyone spent the better part of 3-4 months in lockdown less than six months earlier?
Much easier to accept 10 cases a day coming from 100 rather than 0.
We haven't yet been in a proper harder lockdown, which is why we're steadily above 100 cases a day and the fuckwits think they can march all over the city.
I'm sure if Sydney got down to single digits , and they're confident the contact tracers can remain on top of things then the NSW govt would definitely think about opening up. It's essentially what happened most of last year.
I'm not sure about lifting border restrictions, but I think once maximum vaccinations are reached then it's definitely on the table, the issue being that we likely wont have that by Q1 2022, although, this outbreak seems to have kicked things into action a bit more, so fingers crossed.
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@frank said in Coronavirus - Australia:
Excuse my ignorance of the lockdown levels and rules, but what level lockdown is Sydney in? Can't leave your homes except for special reasons (Level 4?) or just schools are shut and indoor dining and gatherings are banned?(Level 3?)
We're in a weird in-between.
Can exercise with one other person not in your household.
Can travel 10km.
Takeaways and deliveries but no dining in.
Here's the rules: https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/greater-sydney