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@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@booboo I think she drove to Ballina to pick him up after he flew up from Sydney, then she drove him up to Brisbane so the two of them could try their best to fuck each other and then Qld.
So hostee was not infected while flying (11 12 July). Met with dude at Ballina on 14th.
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@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
I can be sympathetic for the reasons of some who might have wanted to protest (not all because lots of the signs on show were clearly not from people wanting to express their financial stress) but until the public health issue is over they should't be violating rules, rules that are in force with the aim of getting us back to normal.
There's a tremendous dystopian irony to that: The right to protest is a key underpinning of a functional liberal democracy and that's washed away with legislation that says you can't protest against the measures we have in place, you just have to suck it up and trust us when we say we'll give you back these freedoms at an indeterminate point in the future.
As we've seen in other jurisdictions - restrictions implemented on the basis of a "health emergency" of one case. Or in the ACT, no cases for a year...
I don't support most of these people and their actions on the weekend, but I can certainly understand their frustrations.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nepia said in Coronavirus - Australia:
I can be sympathetic for the reasons of some who might have wanted to protest (not all because lots of the signs on show were clearly not from people wanting to express their financial stress) but until the public health issue is over they should't be violating rules, rules that are in force with the aim of getting us back to normal.
There's a tremendous dystopian irony to that: The right to protest is a key underpinning of a functional liberal democracy and that's washed away with legislation that says you can't protest against the measures we have in place, you just have to suck it up and trust us when we say we'll give you back these freedoms at an indeterminate point in the future.
As we've seen in other jurisdictions - restrictions implemented on the basis of a "health emergency" of one case. Or in the ACT, no cases for a year...
I don't support most of these people and their actions on the weekend, but I can certainly understand their frustrations.
I said pretty much the same, for some of them.
We had a stricter lockdown than this when Covid first hit and yet within a month of that lockdown finishing cities across Australia were giving permits out for protests. Despite my disliking them both, I don't think the Feds and NSW state govts are using Covid to roll back freedoms.
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NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian will announce a four-week extension of the lockdown tomorrow.
There will be concessions to allow construction to resume from Saturday in non-hotspot areas, rapid antigen testing of year 12 students to allow them to return to school, and a singles bubble for people who live alone.
There are no plans for a return to face-to-face learning for school students in other years.
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thousands protesting again in sydney again
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@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@nta so a few 3-4 days after thousands protest...case take a jump
Assumes that Sovereign Citizens and Nazis bother getting tested
already seeing the claims that the lockdowns not working so may as well lift it
Yeah sure - let's fuck up a few more hospitals.
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wow..I woudnt be surprised if these new restrictions dont create more problems than they're hoping of resolving, its a guess of course, but I suspect their will be anger at some of the new restrictions
Residents of the eight LGA hotspots – including Fairfield, Canterbury-Bankstown, Liverpool, Cumberland, Blacktown, Parramatta, George's River and Campbelltown – will now "need to make sure you wear a mask now at all times".
"If you step foot outside your household, you need to wear a mask at all times. It doesn't matter where it is," Ms Berejiklian said.
"We're seeing too much evidence of people who are not wearing masks when they need to, or if they are outdoors, they're coming into contact with other people and not having a mask.
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@bayimports said in Coronavirus - Australia:
wow..I woudnt be surprised if these new restrictions dont create more problems than they're hoping of resolving, its a guess of course, but I suspect their will be anger at some of the new restrictions
Residents of the eight LGA hotspots – including Fairfield, Canterbury-Bankstown, Liverpool, Cumberland, Blacktown, Parramatta, George's River and Campbelltown – will now "need to make sure you wear a mask now at all times".
"If you step foot outside your household, you need to wear a mask at all times. It doesn't matter where it is," Ms Berejiklian said.
"We're seeing too much evidence of people who are not wearing masks when they need to, or if they are outdoors, they're coming into contact with other people and not having a mask.
Residents of those LGAs must can also only move within a 5km radius of their home from midnight tomorrow.The problem here is the residents in those LGAs aren't going to abide by the rules. Clearly they haven't been thus far.
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how tight are border controls in Aus...
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@bayimports said in Coronavirus - Australia:
wow..I woudnt be surprised if these new restrictions dont create more problems than they're hoping of resolving, its a guess of course, but I suspect their will be anger at some of the new restrictions
Residents of the eight LGA hotspots – including Fairfield, Canterbury-Bankstown, Liverpool, Cumberland, Blacktown, Parramatta, George's River and Campbelltown – will now "need to make sure you wear a mask now at all times".
"If you step foot outside your household, you need to wear a mask at all times. It doesn't matter where it is," Ms Berejiklian said.
"We're seeing too much evidence of people who are not wearing masks when they need to, or if they are outdoors, they're coming into contact with other people and not having a mask.
Residents of those LGAs must can also only move within a 5km radius of their home from midnight tomorrow.we've had that in vic from the start, maybe it does help
not in stopping transmission in passing outside as i think that's proven to not be the case, but maybe in more of a practical sense that people wont forget to put it on when they go inside or something
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@bayimports said in Coronavirus - Australia:
wow..I woudnt be surprised if these new restrictions dont create more problems than they're hoping of resolving, its a guess of course, but I suspect their will be anger at some of the new restrictions
Residents of the eight LGA hotspots – including Fairfield, Canterbury-Bankstown, Liverpool, Cumberland, Blacktown, Parramatta, George's River and Campbelltown – will now "need to make sure you wear a mask now at all times".
"If you step foot outside your household, you need to wear a mask at all times. It doesn't matter where it is," Ms Berejiklian said.
"We're seeing too much evidence of people who are not wearing masks when they need to, or if they are outdoors, they're coming into contact with other people and not having a mask.
Residents of those LGAs must can also only move within a 5km radius of their home from midnight tomorrow.The problem here is the residents in those LGAs aren't going to abide by the rules. Clearly they haven't been thus far.
just before i step out to my freedom protest...
if they are not, we are targeted testing them, and .2% of them are positive. Perhaps we are being a bit harsh on sydney?
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@bayimports said in Coronavirus - Australia:
wow..I woudnt be surprised if these new restrictions dont create more problems than they're hoping of resolving, its a guess of course, but I suspect their will be anger at some of the new restrictions
Residents of the eight LGA hotspots – including Fairfield, Canterbury-Bankstown, Liverpool, Cumberland, Blacktown, Parramatta, George's River and Campbelltown – will now "need to make sure you wear a mask now at all times".
"If you step foot outside your household, you need to wear a mask at all times. It doesn't matter where it is," Ms Berejiklian said.
"We're seeing too much evidence of people who are not wearing masks when they need to, or if they are outdoors, they're coming into contact with other people and not having a mask.
Residents of those LGAs must can also only move within a 5km radius of their home from midnight tomorrow.The problem here is the residents in those LGAs aren't going to abide by the rules. Clearly they haven't been thus far.
just before i step out to my freedom protest...
if they are not, we are targeted testing them, and .2% of them are positive. Perhaps we are being a bit harsh on sydney?
The issue is some hospitals in those areas are getting high numbers of ICU beds taken from COVID cases.
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@mariner4life That's a point I've been making; why lock down LGAs and the people in them if there's fuck all spread there?
For all the panic merchants in QLD and VIC crying that Sydney wasn't locked down early enough, they're ignoring two fundamental issues. The first is the KFC line, and the second is evident now: They aren't abiding by the restrictions anyway.
As a mate who used to be a cop said to me; cops only have the ability to enforce the law because the public lets them. Once they decide in sufficient numbers to ignore the police, there's nothing they can do.
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@antipodean are you suggesting NSW just lets it run and either is shut off from the rest of Aus or the rest of Aus needs to accept NSW has made a decisions for the whole country?
I remember hearing terms like "sick-toria" a hell of a lot from NSW last year
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@nta said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@bayimports said in Coronavirus - Australia:
wow..I woudnt be surprised if these new restrictions dont create more problems than they're hoping of resolving, its a guess of course, but I suspect their will be anger at some of the new restrictions
Residents of the eight LGA hotspots – including Fairfield, Canterbury-Bankstown, Liverpool, Cumberland, Blacktown, Parramatta, George's River and Campbelltown – will now "need to make sure you wear a mask now at all times".
"If you step foot outside your household, you need to wear a mask at all times. It doesn't matter where it is," Ms Berejiklian said.
"We're seeing too much evidence of people who are not wearing masks when they need to, or if they are outdoors, they're coming into contact with other people and not having a mask.
Residents of those LGAs must can also only move within a 5km radius of their home from midnight tomorrow.The problem here is the residents in those LGAs aren't going to abide by the rules. Clearly they haven't been thus far.
just before i step out to my freedom protest...
if they are not, we are targeted testing them, and .2% of them are positive. Perhaps we are being a bit harsh on sydney?
The issue is some hospitals in those areas are getting high numbers of ICU beds taken from COVID cases.
so our ICU capacity is the same as 16 months ago? because as far as i can see, that graphic shows 54 people in ICU.
To me, that is the major failing of this whole fucking thing, and a drum i have banged from the start. This should have been a warning to build capacity.
i guess one thing to consider is there is no fucking way in hell another state is taking COVID cases in their ICU to help out. Remember "queensland hospitals are for queenslanders"?
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