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A friend of mine in the states who has been in full conspiracy theory about COVID (and is now of course anti vaccination) had his kids (5, 7) get confirmed as cases this morning. I’m hoping that the little buggers don’t pay a terrible price (they shouldn’t) but he’s likely to know get it and their mum…
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
A friend of mine in the states who has been in full conspiracy theory about COVID (and is now of course anti vaccination) had his kids (5, 7) get confirmed as cases this morning. I’m hoping that the little buggers don’t pay a terrible price (they shouldn’t) but he’s likely to know get it and their mum…
Well, that gene pool could do with some chlorine in it…
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
A friend of mine in the states who has been in full conspiracy theory about COVID (and is now of course anti vaccination) had his kids (5, 7) get confirmed as cases this morning. I’m hoping that the little buggers don’t pay a terrible price (they shouldn’t) but he’s likely to know get it and their mum…
Stupid. And his kids pay for his stupidity
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@gt12 said in Coronavirus - Overall:
A friend of mine in the states who has been in full conspiracy theory about COVID (and is now of course anti vaccination) had his kids (5, 7) get confirmed as cases this morning. I’m hoping that the little buggers don’t pay a terrible price (they shouldn’t) but he’s likely to know get it and their mum…
A mate of mine in the States was one of the first to get vaxxed ( his bro is a pharmacist), his 4yr old has Covid right now also - he is quarantining at how with him while the wife has taken the other kids away.
This thing is pretty catchy unless you're in the far north of either NZ or Oz it seems
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@frank said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@broughie said in Coronavirus - Overall:
But actually the primary people who are not getting vaccinated are blacks and Hispanics. Not white Anglo Saxton protestants Trumpers that you’ve been led to believe.
If Trumpsters die, it's their own fault and the fault of whomever Republican Governors are in their crosshairs (think Ron DeSantis, Kristi Noem
- example headline from Vanity Fair
" South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem Joins Fellow Republicans in Quest to Kill Her Constituents".
There will be massive coverage of stories saying how they regret not getting vaccinated as they are on their deathbed.
@frank that headline about Noem is pretty disgusting. She is saying that her constituents have a choice in their health care decisions and does not believe in government mandate. So if someone dies from getting the virus it is on them. I agree. Personal responsibility, right and not any ones else. That’s what is should be about and not the madness of a police state down under.
If Blacks or Hispanics die it's systemic racism due their unequal access to healthcare.
Maybe some in these groups actually have chosen not to be vaccinated.There are plenty of avenues to get vaccinated. It is free so I don’t know how anyone can argue that their is unequal access. Major Neighbour hood pharmacies offer them and they are everywhere. And yes they probably have chosen and some are so fearful of getting out and being exposed.
And I am sure the right wing has as equally dishonest propaganda.
Yes the right wing has some dishonest stuff or uneducated for sure. But these days it is hard to find truth when even science is subjective because of politics.
- example headline from Vanity Fair
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@gt12 The chances are slim to none that the little ones will pay a price. That’s what the stats show. All three of my kids had Covid and recovered. The kids that have problems are immunocompromised. My kids basically felt blah for about three days and that’s how they described it to me.
They lost taste for a week or so. But other than that it was a non-event which it is pretty much the story of covid and kids. According to my daughter the flu is worse as she is congested, can’t sleep and feels miserable. Just some perspective. -
@canefan You can argue the merits of him having the vaccine but his kids won’t pay a price. That’s the problem because NZ hasn’t experienced Covid it’s automatically DOA. I think in a few years when we, hopefully, become accustomed to the existence of this virus like the flu the hysteria about kids will fade away.
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/COVID-19-Cases-by-Age-Group.aspx
Again perspective.
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@broughie said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@gt12 The chances are slim to none that the little ones will pay a price. That’s what the stats show. All three of my kids had Covid and recovered. The kids that have problems are immunocompromised. My kids basically felt blah for about three days and that’s how they described it to me.
They lost taste for a week or so. But other than that it was a non-event which it is pretty much the story of covid and kids. According to my daughter the flu is worse as she is congested, can’t sleep and feels miserable. Just some perspective.isn't delta proving to be different? or did your kids have delta? i thought delta was hitting kids just as hard as adult, making up a decent percent of the hospitalisations currently
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We’re going to get through Delta. Just have to be patient. Then comes Echo. More patience required. Foxtrot variant to follow. Then a round of Golf. Another protracted stay in Hotel. We’ll get through the variant alphabet by the next Olympics. This is just the beginning. Delta is today what “two weeks to flatten the curve” was to Alpha. Buckle up.
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@kid-chocolate dont think they are following that alphabet...given they already have Gamma (Brazil)...and had Beta (SA) and even ALpha was the UK strain, not the original.
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@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@broughie said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@gt12 The chances are slim to none that the little ones will pay a price. That’s what the stats show. All three of my kids had Covid and recovered. The kids that have problems are immunocompromised. My kids basically felt blah for about three days and that’s how they described it to me.
They lost taste for a week or so. But other than that it was a non-event which it is pretty much the story of covid and kids. According to my daughter the flu is worse as she is congested, can’t sleep and feels miserable. Just some perspective.isn't delta proving to be different? or did your kids have delta? i thought delta was hitting kids just as hard as adult, making up a decent percent of the hospitalisations currently
Could be mistaken, but most of the reports I’ve read — and they’re presumably “official” ‘cos no self-righteous mainstream media org would ever dare printing click-baity “fake news” would they? — say the Delta is much-much-more more transmissible than earlier variants, but that the effect and fatality is no worse than the others. But it sounds super-scary, and that’s at least half the point.
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Finer point is, it ain’t going away. It’ll be mutations for years. Best seal the border now, until the last person on earth has been jabbed with every available vaccine and booster shot. To protect the children.
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@kid-chocolate I think the difference is the original strain largely didnt impact kids, whereas Delta is hitting everyone, one of the cases on Tuesday in Wellington was a kid under 12 months.
The optics of kids getting sick and dying is much worse than old people.
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@kid-chocolate said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@broughie said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@gt12 The chances are slim to none that the little ones will pay a price. That’s what the stats show. All three of my kids had Covid and recovered. The kids that have problems are immunocompromised. My kids basically felt blah for about three days and that’s how they described it to me.
They lost taste for a week or so. But other than that it was a non-event which it is pretty much the story of covid and kids. According to my daughter the flu is worse as she is congested, can’t sleep and feels miserable. Just some perspective.isn't delta proving to be different? or did your kids have delta? i thought delta was hitting kids just as hard as adult, making up a decent percent of the hospitalisations currently
Could be mistaken, but most of the reports I’ve read — and they’re presumably “official” ‘cos no self-righteous mainstream media org would ever dare printing click-baity “fake news” would they? — say the Delta is much-much-more more transmissible than earlier variants, but that the effect and fatality is no worse than the others. But it sounds super-scary, and that’s at least half the point.
i think thats what i was meaning, where as Kids seemed to be able to avoid the previous strains they are catching delta as easily as anyone else and that includes the associated hospitalisations
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What’s the fatality rate for Delta on kids under 12? I don’t doubt kids get it. They get tonsillitis too, and that is sometimes fatal.
Does Covid kill more kids than, say, drowning? If not, then I want a mandatory ban on all water sport activities, because their welfare needs protected.
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@kid-chocolate no idea overall, a graphic from a link above, this relates to California (I think this is COvid deaths, no specific to Delta)
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@kid-chocolate i really didn;t want to bite but you do know there is a different between dying due to something you've done... like swimming, and therefor accepting the consequences of your actions...and dying of COVID which you caught from doing nothing special other than being in a supermarket or something...theyre not apple and apples
i realise eventually we'll have to accept living with it but i dont think trivialising it is necessary
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@kid-chocolate no idea overall, a graphic from a link above, this relates to California (I think this is COvid deaths, no specific to Delta)
Gee percent died for groups under 17 cant even get to 0.1% of cases.
So the only argument for vaccinating those under 17 must be vaccination makes them less likely to transmit to transmit Corona to more vulnerable groups?
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