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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
    replied to Crucial on last edited by Tim
    #1896

    @crucial said in Beer thread:

    Brewdog

    22% owned by a private equity company since 2017. Their poorer IPAs (Punk IPA, not nice) are stocked in convenience stores in China, alongside InBev's Goose Island (not good). The "Dead Pony" (name?) light ale is probably still good.

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    @tim said in Beer thread:

    @crucial said in Beer thread:

    Brewdog

    22% owned by a private equity company since 2017. Their poorer IPAs (Punk IPA, not nice) are stocked in convenience stores in China, alongside InBev's Goose Island (not good). The "Dead Pony" (name?) light ale is probably still good.

    They served a great purpose as a market disruptor in the UK which is why they went big quick with public offferings. Every corner Tescos or Sainsburys stocks them.
    I don't think they set out to do it that way but saw a business model opening as the big retailers wanted to fill a 'craft beer' space on the shelves.
    As a pub option at places that only work off kegs they are often the best choice (when your other choices are Peroni etc) and Punk isn't that bad fresh off the tap.
    Beavertown are following a similar path.

    Yeastie Boys are also pretty much a UK brand now and getting distribution in supermarkets like Waitrose is a huge win for them. Credit to them that they keep an 'adventurous' arm going with some experimental stuff and a network of independent pubs that distribute these one-offs.

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  • TimT Away
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    Lager-brewing yeasts in the era of modern genetics

    The yeast Saccharomyces pastorianus is responsible for the annual worldwide production of almost 200 billion liters of lager-type beer. S. pastorianus is a hybrid of Saccharomyces cerevisiae and Saccharomyces eubayanus that has been studied for well over a century. Scientific interest in S. pastorianus intensified upon the discovery, in 2011, of its S. eubayanus ancestor. Moreover, advances in whole-genome sequencing and genome editing now enable deeper exploration of the complex hybrid and aneuploid genome architectures of S. pastorianus strains. These developments not only provide novel insights into the emergence and domestication of S. pastorianus but also generate new opportunities for its industrial application. This review paper combines historical, technical and socioeconomic perspectives to analyze the evolutionary origin and genetics of S. pastorianus. In addition, it provides an overview of available methods for industrial strain improvement and an outlook on future industrial application of lager-brewing yeasts. Particular attention is given to the ongoing debate on whether current S. pastorianus originates from a single or multiple hybridization events and to the potential role of genome editing in developing industrial brewing yeast strains.

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    Okay, so lockdowns (here in Sydney/NSW at least) are no longer a thing. But all through the 14 week lockdown I kept thinking about starting to home brew.

    Spoke to some friends including my boss who home brew and eventually put together a bit of a plan. To preface this, I live in an apartment and therefore space, smells and mess are very much a consideration especially if I want to maintain a happy wife and therefore, happy life.

    So ultimately, based on some suggestions and lots of homework, I chose the BrewArt BeerDroid. A fully temperature controlled automated fermenter that quite frankly, just looks cool 😎

    This is the Beer Droid...
    WhatsApp Image 2021-10-22 at 10.56.38.jpeg

    With BrewArt, you can brew using their pre-packaged BrewPrints or their pre-packaged ingredients to come up with your own receipes, or clones of well known beers, or fresh wort kits, or even doing your own mash or seep and then adding to the Droid.

    Starting with baby steps, I've got my first brew down using the Narci-Citrus IPA BrewPrint. Now 6 days in and there should be another 2 to 4 days left of fermentation, then will dry hop, 48 hours in dry hop mode before it will move into a 24 hr cold crash to help with clarity and then finally warms up to kegging temperature. If at any time I want to, I can alter the times to dry hop or cold crash or kegging temp.

    Going to double the amount of dry hops based on reviews of this particular brew print, 40 grams each of Citra and Galaxy hops which should give it a good hoppy taste which I prefer.

    One drawback to home brewing is waiting the 4-6 weeks of secondary fermentation/maturation. Hence why my plan is to put 4 litres into my iKegger (in the picture next to the Droid) and force carbonate with CO2. 6 litres will then go into 750 ml PET (BPA free) bottles and will use supplied Carbonation Drops.

    Cannot wait to have my first taste.

    Have already gone out and purchased a fresh wort kit to make a New England IPA (NEIPA), one of my favourite styles of craft beer as well as extra hops and dextrose to give it some punch 🤫

    WhatsApp Image 2021-10-24 at 08.53.07.jpeg

    Cheers

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  • nzzpN Online
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    #1901

    @roninwc welcome into the rabbit hole.

    Looks a nice bit of kit. I went the other way, started big, with 100L brews. Scaled back since, but dropped an 80L pilsner brew last weekend.

    Good fun, best hobby in the world. Enjoy it, but manage your consumption and keep the exercise up. First year i had beer on tap, I put on 10kg. Not complaining, just observing ... it's awesome but high alcohol beers are scary full of empty calories.

    Well, empty but for taste.

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
    wrote on last edited by
    #1902

    Behemoth Brewing - Half Way Down Lager (Japanese rice style)

    Quite nice for a change. "Clean" style, perhaps a little on the soda side.

    Half Way Down • Behemoth Brewing Company
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  • MN5M Online
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    #1903

    @roninwc said in Beer thread:

    Okay, so lockdowns (here in Sydney/NSW at least) are no longer a thing. But all through the 14 week lockdown I kept thinking about starting to home brew.

    Spoke to some friends including my boss who home brew and eventually put together a bit of a plan. To preface this, I live in an apartment and therefore space, smells and mess are very much a consideration especially if I want to maintain a happy wife and therefore, happy life.

    So ultimately, based on some suggestions and lots of homework, I chose the BrewArt BeerDroid. A fully temperature controlled automated fermenter that quite frankly, just looks cool 😎

    This is the Beer Droid...
    WhatsApp Image 2021-10-22 at 10.56.38.jpeg

    With BrewArt, you can brew using their pre-packaged BrewPrints or their pre-packaged ingredients to come up with your own receipes, or clones of well known beers, or fresh wort kits, or even doing your own mash or seep and then adding to the Droid.

    Starting with baby steps, I've got my first brew down using the Narci-Citrus IPA BrewPrint. Now 6 days in and there should be another 2 to 4 days left of fermentation, then will dry hop, 48 hours in dry hop mode before it will move into a 24 hr cold crash to help with clarity and then finally warms up to kegging temperature. If at any time I want to, I can alter the times to dry hop or cold crash or kegging temp.

    Going to double the amount of dry hops based on reviews of this particular brew print, 40 grams each of Citra and Galaxy hops which should give it a good hoppy taste which I prefer.

    One drawback to home brewing is waiting the 4-6 weeks of secondary fermentation/maturation. Hence why my plan is to put 4 litres into my iKegger (in the picture next to the Droid) and force carbonate with CO2. 6 litres will then go into 750 ml PET (BPA free) bottles and will use supplied Carbonation Drops.

    Cannot wait to have my first taste.

    Have already gone out and purchased a fresh wort kit to make a New England IPA (NEIPA), one of my favourite styles of craft beer as well as extra hops and dextrose to give it some punch 🤫

    WhatsApp Image 2021-10-24 at 08.53.07.jpeg

    Cheers

    That looks fool proof enough that even I couldn’t fuck it up.

    Will send this to the woman as a gift idea for Xmas.

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
    replied to MN5 on last edited by
    #1904

    @mn5 said in Beer thread:

    That looks fool proof enough that even I couldn’t fuck it up.

    https://streamable.com/vv9qn4

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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    @nzzp said in Beer thread:

    @roninwc welcome into the rabbit hole.

    Looks a nice bit of kit. I went the other way, started big, with 100L brews. Scaled back since, but dropped an 80L pilsner brew last weekend.

    Good fun, best hobby in the world. Enjoy it, but manage your consumption and keep the exercise up. First year i had beer on tap, I put on 10kg. Not complaining, just observing ... it's awesome but high alcohol beers are scary full of empty calories.

    Well, empty but for taste.

    did you find a tasty sweet spot between not so high calories and a good tasting beer?

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  • nzzpN Online
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    nzzp
    replied to nostrildamus on last edited by
    #1906

    @nostrildamus said in Beer thread:

    @nzzp said in Beer thread:

    @roninwc welcome into the rabbit hole.

    Looks a nice bit of kit. I went the other way, started big, with 100L brews. Scaled back since, but dropped an 80L pilsner brew last weekend.

    Good fun, best hobby in the world. Enjoy it, but manage your consumption and keep the exercise up. First year i had beer on tap, I put on 10kg. Not complaining, just observing ... it's awesome but high alcohol beers are scary full of empty calories.

    Well, empty but for taste.

    did you find a tasty sweet spot between not so high calories and a good tasting beer?

    Kinda.

    Lower alcohol table beers are good, otherwise manage consumption😀

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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    nostrildamus
    replied to nzzp on last edited by
    #1907

    @nzzp said in Beer thread:

    @nostrildamus said in Beer thread:

    @nzzp said in Beer thread:

    @roninwc welcome into the rabbit hole.

    Looks a nice bit of kit. I went the other way, started big, with 100L brews. Scaled back since, but dropped an 80L pilsner brew last weekend.

    Good fun, best hobby in the world. Enjoy it, but manage your consumption and keep the exercise up. First year i had beer on tap, I put on 10kg. Not complaining, just observing ... it's awesome but high alcohol beers are scary full of empty calories.

    Well, empty but for taste.

    did you find a tasty sweet spot between not so high calories and a good tasting beer?

    Kinda.

    Lower alcohol table beers are good, otherwise manage consumption😀

    bold=good bit
    italics= reasonable but evil and unlikely bit

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  • nzzpN Online
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    nzzp
    replied to nostrildamus on last edited by
    #1908

    @nostrildamus said in Beer thread:

    @nzzp said in Beer thread:

    @nostrildamus said in Beer thread:

    @nzzp said in Beer thread:

    @roninwc welcome into the rabbit hole.

    Looks a nice bit of kit. I went the other way, started big, with 100L brews. Scaled back since, but dropped an 80L pilsner brew last weekend.

    Good fun, best hobby in the world. Enjoy it, but manage your consumption and keep the exercise up. First year i had beer on tap, I put on 10kg. Not complaining, just observing ... it's awesome but high alcohol beers are scary full of empty calories.

    Well, empty but for taste.

    did you find a tasty sweet spot between not so high calories and a good tasting beer?

    Kinda.

    Lower alcohol table beers are good, otherwise manage consumption😀

    bold=good bit
    italics= reasonable but evil and unlikely bit

    Yes, unfortunate but true

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    #1909

    have i had a rave about these bad boys yet

    alt text

    I've dubbed them Richie McCaws and they are fucking amazing. A pale cloudy gold colour. Bit fruity in flavour but not bad. Not a sour either. Refreshing served real cold from a glass. Not overly sessionable (i've never had more than 4 in a sitting) but at 6% that's not bad.

    Would absolutely recommend

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    @mariner4life said in Beer thread:

    have i had a rave about these bad boys yet

    alt text

    I've dubbed them Richie McCaws and they are fucking amazing. A pale cloudy gold colour. Bit fruity in flavour but not bad. Not a sour either. Refreshing served real cold from a glass. Not overly sessionable (i've never had more than 4 in a sitting) but at 6% that's not bad.

    Would absolutely recommend

    shame they wouldn't have the cash to be the main AB sponsor. The jersey would be fantastic..

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #1911

    Just had McLeod's new seasonal sour beer Wicker Basket Tropical Sour. Nice balance of fruit and tartness. Good way to start a session.

    https://mcleodsbrewery.co.nz/collections/seasonal/products/wicker-basket-tropical-sour

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
    wrote on last edited by
    #1912

    No one in Warkworth will stock their Helles, because "Helles are slow sellers."

    Heathens.

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    #1913

    surprised a GoFundMe or Givealittle page wasnt created!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/127085412/7000-litres-of-beer-tipped-down-the-drain-as-brewery-goes-bust

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    #1914

    @taniwharugby said in Beer thread:

    surprised a GoFundMe or Givealittle page wasnt created!

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/127085412/7000-litres-of-beer-tipped-down-the-drain-as-brewery-goes-bust

    This is the saddest thing I have seen all year and that’s saying something.

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    @mn5 it may not have met your high standards of beer snobbery anyway 😉

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