Apple
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@machpants said in Apple:
I wouldn’t go for the pro, presonally. Kids laptops get a thrashing, they’re more likely to physically die than become obsolete from my experience of 15 years IT!
Definitely depends on the kid, my son looks after his tech. Undiscovered country comes next year with my daughter.
Edit: Finished counting my fingers and toes; 30 years in IT
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it's a scam!
We 'only' had to get TR Jnr a Dell Chrome book, and glad I went down the route of a refurbed one, cos the little so and so barely took it or used it, uses the school ones (also Dell Chrome books) when he needed to!
One thing we did do though, was went to an Engraver and had his name and mobile engraved on it, just in case it vanished or the most likely scenario, he left it somewhere (which turned out to be home)
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@kirwan My niece has a pro. She has literally carved a TikTok logo into the lid with a compass or something. But that’s OK, her poor old Dad can buy her another one, I mean he’s old so why does he need both kidneys?
I actually flinched reading that. I've already said to the wife it needs a case for her.
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A question for those who have a MacBook, iMac etc:
Have you routinely updated the macOS when a new operating system is available?
The reason I ask is that I have deliberately not done so for two main reasons. (1) I know that some of the software I use won't work on the latest macOS, and (2) based on discussions with Apple techs their recommendation was there was no need if your Mac was working as you need it.
always good to search for how much spare memory you really need and whether others had problems installing, e.g. the Big Sur installation often required a lot of extra drive space and could hang...not always a safe move to be an early adopter!
I'm not sure what version you are on and lately I've been turned away to other OS but from memory (bad pun) some recent versions claimed performance improvements..Apple did have some criticism for taking out features of some apps in upgrades a few years ago..e.g. iMovie... -
@taniwharugby said in Apple:
it's a scam!
We 'only' had to get TR Jnr a Dell Chrome book, and glad I went down the route of a refurbed one, cos the little so and so barely took it or used it, uses the school ones (also Dell Chrome books) when he needed to!
One thing we did do though, was went to an Engraver and had his name and mobile engraved on it, just in case it vanished or the most likely scenario, he left it somewhere (which turned out to be home)
WBHS has no device required, which I like.
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@machpants yeah KHS was recommended, not required.
Miss 13 is at WGHS next year, and I think they are also just recommended.
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To be fair to the school, the Pro was just one option. They also said we could just get him an Air if we wished, which would have brought the total cost down to a bargain $1700 all-in...Stupid machine better last him all of high school!
On the plus side, hopefully he uses it for some music recording stuff, I understand most software works better on apple ?
how heavy is his bag, there is a big weight difference, I would have thought the Air is enough for most people. Oh for video editing yeah the extra grunt would be good.
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@taniwharugby said in Apple:
@machpants yeah KHS was recommended, not required.
Miss 13 is at WGHS next year, and I think they are also just recommended.
Wife(teacher) thinks it's BYOD, Chromebook recommended as they use G Suite.
Edit: starting this year
https://www.wghs.school.nz/perch/resources/digital-devices-at-wghs.pdf
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@nostrildamus said in Apple:
To be fair to the school, the Pro was just one option. They also said we could just get him an Air if we wished, which would have brought the total cost down to a bargain $1700 all-in...Stupid machine better last him all of high school!
On the plus side, hopefully he uses it for some music recording stuff, I understand most software works better on apple ?
how heavy is his bag, there is a big weight difference, I would have thought the Air is enough for most people. Oh for video editing yeah the extra grunt would be good.
The Boy uses his Macbook Air (2015 model) for video editing and it does the job, apparently. Adobe After Effects and Premier Pro.
Obviously would be quicker if it was a Macbook Pro thingy, but that is a stupid amount of money. We're thinking of buying him a pro once he graduates. The Air has been going since he started in 2017.
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Did kids have to take their own typewriters back in the day?
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@nostrildamus said in Apple:
To be fair to the school, the Pro was just one option. They also said we could just get him an Air if we wished, which would have brought the total cost down to a bargain $1700 all-in...Stupid machine better last him all of high school!
On the plus side, hopefully he uses it for some music recording stuff, I understand most software works better on apple ?
how heavy is his bag, there is a big weight difference, I would have thought the Air is enough for most people. Oh for video editing yeah the extra grunt would be good.
The Boy uses his Macbook Air (2015 model) for video editing and it does the job, apparently. Adobe After Effects and Premier Pro.
Obviously would be quicker if it was a Macbook Pro thingy, but that is a stupid amount of money. We're thinking of buying him a pro once he graduates. The Air has been going since he started in 2017.
The new Air would easily handle that. My M1 chip Air is way better than my two year old Pro in just about every way.
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@nostrildamus said in Apple:
To be fair to the school, the Pro was just one option. They also said we could just get him an Air if we wished, which would have brought the total cost down to a bargain $1700 all-in...Stupid machine better last him all of high school!
On the plus side, hopefully he uses it for some music recording stuff, I understand most software works better on apple ?
how heavy is his bag, there is a big weight difference, I would have thought the Air is enough for most people. Oh for video editing yeah the extra grunt would be good.
The Boy uses his Macbook Air (2015 model) for video editing and it does the job, apparently. Adobe After Effects and Premier Pro.
Obviously would be quicker if it was a Macbook Pro thingy, but that is a stupid amount of money. We're thinking of buying him a pro once he graduates. The Air has been going since he started in 2017.
I have one from 2013! But call me cynical I wonder if Apple delib make people who need just a little more power buy the Pro, the Air is better value and easier to lug around but for 2-5% of jobs for many just doesn't quite seem as fast...wonder if it is deliberate..not a great fan of current Apple company (policy, consumer focus, pricing) but still like their laptops..
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@nostrildamus Macs get on my tits. The OS shits me because I don't use it very often and therefore find it quite difficult, on the rare occasions I need to check something on the kids' units.
My daughter's Air kept getting filling the HDD, and it was was due to me logging in as an admin to set up something. That account was running in the background and consuming tens of GB of space.
I was trying to connect a network drive. How fucking hard is that as a concept on a Mac? Windows may not be perfect but the concept of drive letters is mint compared to the way Mac runs it.
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Does an equivalent (and cheaper) Dell not have the required social cachet?
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@antipodean said in Apple:
Does an equivalent (and cheaper) Dell not have the required social cachet?
I believe the decision is left up to an individual school - as long as it is uniform across that school to reduce issues with technical and teacher support. In the case of ours, Apple. As it is a Catholic school, I'm betting the decision came from the Diocese so that they can bulk buy licensing and support and get deals with Apple (pathetic tho they might be).
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@nta Open Finder, Connect to Server and type in the address or browse if it’s on the same network, click Connect. It’s then in the sidebar under Location. Add it to a list of favourites in the same window if you want so you don’t have to locate it ever again. Add it to login items for a user if you want it to load every time they log in.
What am I missing?
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@machpants all good, she can have her brothers one, with his name engraved on it
Now you mention it, I think I recall being told (our neighbour is a teacher there)
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