Coronavirus - UK
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@victor-meldrew Yep, just heard a South African epidemiologist on the radio saying it has much milder symptoms than the strains we’ve had so far. There was some suggestion it would be preferable if that strain became dominant.
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Chris Whitty said today it was too early to tell if Omnicron will have much of an impact, but his guess was it will make current vaccines less effective and more people ill, but hospital admissions and deaths won't be affected much.
There was an interesting comment from him today that the SA variant will be fighting with the Delta variant for dominance and one variant will almost disappear quite quickly... Virus wars.!
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@victor-meldrew so the viruses will just be using us, cheeky fluffybunnies
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@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - UK:
Couple of cases of this new variant in the UK already.
Amazing how much fear has been speculated given that we literally know nothing about this new variant yet. Nothing.
I fear for the end of my folks trip next April.
I'd trust Chris Whitty.
That makes perfect sense for the very reason I mentioned over a year ago: Mutation that increases transmissibility typically involves a trade-off. Doubt that would be the interpretation of some chief health officers and premiers on the other side of the planet...
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
That makes perfect sense for the very reason I mentioned over a year ago: Mutation that increases transmissibility typically involves a trade-off. Doubt that would be the interpretation of some chief health officers and premiers on the other side of the planet...
Yeah. One of things the UK has done really well (and, like most government, they've done a fair bit wrong) is getting the medical and science guys out in front of the public to present data, explain and answer questions from the public and the press. Everyone gives a little cheer when they correct the crap UK media for scaremongering and getting their facts wrong
The politicians are with them as well, but there's a very clear distinction between the two
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
@victor-meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - UK:
Couple of cases of this new variant in the UK already.
Amazing how much fear has been speculated given that we literally know nothing about this new variant yet. Nothing.
I fear for the end of my folks trip next April.
I'd trust Chris Whitty.
That makes perfect sense for the very reason I mentioned over a year ago: Mutation that increases transmissibility typically involves a trade-off. Doubt that would be the interpretation of some chief health officers and premiers on the other side of the planet...
The God King of WA was all over it straight away
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Positivity on the beeb now
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Game Over
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Overweight, obesity, and risk of hospitalization for COVID-19: A community-based cohort study of adults in the United Kingdom
Abstract
The role of obesity and overweight in occurrence of COVID-19 is unknown. We conducted a large-scale general population study using data from a community-dwelling sample in England (n = 334,329; 56.4 ±8.1 y; 54.5% women) with prospective linkage to national registry on hospitalization for COVID-19. Body mass index (BMI, from measured height and weight) was used as an indicator of overall obesity, and waist-hip ratio for central obesity. Main outcome was cases of COVID-19 serious enough to warrant a hospital admission from 16 March 2020 to 26 April 2020. Around 0.2% (n = 640) of the sample were hospitalized for COVID-19. There was an upward linear trend in the likelihood of COVID-19 hospitalization with increasing BMI, that was evident in the overweight (odds ratio, 1.39; 95% CI 1.13 to 1.71; crude incidence 19.1 per 10,000) and obese stage I (1.70;1.34 to 2.16; 23.3 per 10,000) and stage II (3.38; 2.60 to 4.40; 42.7 per 10,000) compared to normal weight (12.5 per 10,000). This gradient was little affected after adjustment for a wide range of covariates; however, controlling for biomarkers, particularly high-density lipoprotein cholesterol and glycated hemoglobin, led to a greater degree of attenuation. A similar pattern of association emerged for waist-hip ratio. In summary, overall and central obesity are risk factors for COVID-19 hospital admission. Elevated risk was apparent even at modest weight gain. The mechanisms may involve impaired glucose and lipid metabolism.
We’re almost two years in this. Governments and health officials need to start sermonizing less about masks and unvaxxed, and start shaming their people onto diets and treadmills. I’m going to the gym.
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@kid-chocolate said in Coronavirus - UK:
Overweight, obesity, and risk of hospitalization for COVID-19: A community-based cohort study of adults in the United Kingdom
Abstract
The role of obesity and overweight in occurrence of COVID-19 is unknown. We conducted a large-scale general population study using data from a community-dwelling sample in England (n = 334,329; 56.4 ±8.1 y; 54.5% women) with prospective linkage to national registry on hospitalization for COVID-19. Body mass index (BMI, from measured height and weight) was used as an indicator of overall obesity, and waist-hip ratio for central obesity. Main outcome was cases of COVID-19 serious enough to warrant a hospital admission from 16 March 2020 to 26 April 2020. Around 0.2% (n = 640) of the sample were hospitalized for COVID-19. There was an upward linear trend in the likelihood of COVID-19 hospitalization with increasing BMI, that was evident in the overweight (odds ratio, 1.39; 95% CI 1.13 to 1.71; crude incidence 19.1 per 10,000) and obese stage I (1.70;1.34 to 2.16; 23.3 per 10,000) and stage II (3.38; 2.60 to 4.40; 42.7 per 10,000) compared to normal weight (12.5 per 10,000). This gradient was little affected after adjustment for a wide range of covariates; however, controlling for biomarkers, particularly high-density lipoprotein cholesterol and glycated hemoglobin, led to a greater degree of attenuation. A similar pattern of association emerged for waist-hip ratio. In summary, overall and central obesity are risk factors for COVID-19 hospital admission. Elevated risk was apparent even at modest weight gain. The mechanisms may involve impaired glucose and lipid metabolism.
We’re almost two years in this. Governments and health officials need to start sermonizing less about masks and unvaxxed, and start shaming their people onto diets and treadmills. I’m going to the gym.
Even the dullest kid in the class has known this from day 1
Government officials too invested in companies making the populace fat
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It is widely (sorry bad pun) known that being a fat bastard significantly increases the dangers of covid, going to the gym or on a diet is no protection NOW. The vaccination programme offers significant protection after 2 weeks. Getting your shit together takes many months at best. It is not an either/or solution. Get vaxxed now AND sort your shit out should be the message.covid is not the only danger for the tubby lard-heads of this world.
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@catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
It is widely (sorry bad pun) known that being a fat bastard significantly increases the dangers of covid, going to the gym or on a diet is no protection NOW
They've had 18 months. If someone was to ask me six weeks into the last "seven day lockdown" I had to put up with, how many fat fluffybunnies I'd sacrifice to get to life as we knew it pre-covid, I'd have said all of them.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
@catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
It is widely (sorry bad pun) known that being a fat bastard significantly increases the dangers of covid, going to the gym or on a diet is no protection NOW
They've had 18 months. If someone was to ask me six weeks into the last "seven day lockdown" I had to put up with, how many fat fluffybunnies I'd sacrifice to get to life as we knew it pre-covid, I'd have said all of them.
Yeah, but we’re dealing with the now problems and implying that losing weight is a sensible alternative to getting vaxxed is quite frankly ludicrous.
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@catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
@catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
It is widely (sorry bad pun) known that being a fat bastard significantly increases the dangers of covid, going to the gym or on a diet is no protection NOW
They've had 18 months. If someone was to ask me six weeks into the last "seven day lockdown" I had to put up with, how many fat fluffybunnies I'd sacrifice to get to life as we knew it pre-covid, I'd have said all of them.
Yeah, but we’re dealing with the now problems and implying that losing weight is a sensible alternative to getting vaxxed is quite frankly ludicrous.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
@catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
@catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
It is widely (sorry bad pun) known that being a fat bastard significantly increases the dangers of covid, going to the gym or on a diet is no protection NOW
They've had 18 months. If someone was to ask me six weeks into the last "seven day lockdown" I had to put up with, how many fat fluffybunnies I'd sacrifice to get to life as we knew it pre-covid, I'd have said all of them.
Yeah, but we’re dealing with the now problems and implying that losing weight is a sensible alternative to getting vaxxed is quite frankly ludicrous.
Good idea. If only I’d said that 🙄
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@catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
@catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
@catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
It is widely (sorry bad pun) known that being a fat bastard significantly increases the dangers of covid, going to the gym or on a diet is no protection NOW
They've had 18 months. If someone was to ask me six weeks into the last "seven day lockdown" I had to put up with, how many fat fluffybunnies I'd sacrifice to get to life as we knew it pre-covid, I'd have said all of them.
Yeah, but we’re dealing with the now problems and implying that losing weight is a sensible alternative to getting vaxxed is quite frankly ludicrous.
Good idea. If only I’d said that 🙄
In the same way I didn't imply 'losing weight is a sensible alternative to getting vaxxed'..? 🙄
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
@catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
@catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus - UK:
@catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
It is widely (sorry bad pun) known that being a fat bastard significantly increases the dangers of covid, going to the gym or on a diet is no protection NOW
They've had 18 months. If someone was to ask me six weeks into the last "seven day lockdown" I had to put up with, how many fat fluffybunnies I'd sacrifice to get to life as we knew it pre-covid, I'd have said all of them.
Yeah, but we’re dealing with the now problems and implying that losing weight is a sensible alternative to getting vaxxed is quite frankly ludicrous.
Good idea. If only I’d said that 🙄
In the same way I didn't imply 'losing weight is a sensible alternative to getting vaxxed'..? 🙄
No. You didn’t but my original post on this topic was replying to one that did imply that.
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So after almost 2 years Boris finally gets round to requiring a negative LFT to enter the UK, then Day 2 and Day 8 testing.
Thrown UK holidaymakers hopes of a pre-Christmas trip into disarray.
One family I know of would have needed to do 33 tests at a cost of £1k to enjoy a 1-week ski holiday.
Absolute fucking shambles