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  • KiwiMurphK Online
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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life I still can't understand why Boks didn't set up for a drop goal to push the lead out to more than 3 points in the QF vs Aussie when they had the ball 10 metres or so out near the posts.

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

    @junior said in All Blacks 2022:

    Such a good point - our 2007 and 2019 RWC campaigns could have been so different had there not been big upsets during pool play.

    Hell, every RWC the draw matters.

    You see the path the eventual winners take, and it is so variable. SA 2007 got Fiji Argentina England to win. England had Aus France SA. They just aren't comparable challenges.

    You cna't control it, but it has an influence. England would have had to beat Aus NZ SA in 2019 -- so it's swings and roundabouts.

    Somehow, though, the draw hasn't favoured the ABs yet. Hopefully 2023 eh 🙂

    I think 2011 was a pretty handy draw in hindsight

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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by booboo
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    @kiwimurph said in All Blacks 2022:

    @mariner4life I still can't understand why Boks didn't set up for a drop goal to push the lead out to more than 3 points in the QF vs Aussie when they had the ball 10 metres or so out near the posts.

    Because Bryce Lawrence.

    Ask any Seffrican.

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    @booboo He really did stuff them though. Poidevin could have played the whole game on his knees and hands and he wouldn't have been penalized.

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    @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2022:

    @booboo He really did stuff them though. Poidevin could have played the whole game on his knees and hands and he wouldn't have been penalized.

    Every team needs a "we were robbed" game in a world cup. Lawrence gave the Boks theirs 😃

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    @old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks 2022:

    @booboo He really did stuff them though. Poidevin could have played the whole game on his knees and hands and he wouldn't have been penalized.

    Would have been a hell of an achievement for a 53yo. Can understand why the ref would go easy.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

    @rotated said in All Blacks 2022:

    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2022:

    Somehow, though, the draw hasn't favoured the ABs yet. Hopefully 2023 eh 🙂

    Limiting it to the professional era I would say 1999 and 2011 were overly generous draws for us.

    In 1999 the two other contenders in a three team tournament drew each other in the semi final and we had the easiest quarter final.

    In 2011 we played three runners up from the pool round in the knockout stage which is would probably dwelled on more as good luck if the run of injuries at 10 had not happened.

    2011 is definitely our "SA 2007" draw. The Argies were ordinary, the Aussies not much better, and we got France who tripped their way to the final after we had already flogged them

    Injuries and the weight of history almost conspired to beat us.

    It was easier for us - but I don't think at SA07 level. Argentina 2011 was >> Argentina 2007. But yep, 2011 favoured us, and at home too.

    Australia were dangerous though, remember they had beaten us in Brisbane that year, and had Quade and Pocock. They really were a threat - but we were completely up for it. Arguably that cost us the intensity in the final.

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    @nzzp The Argentinean team in 2007 topped their pool, beating France and Ireland to do so. That had a major implication for the ABs for their QF opponent.

    Sure they lost to SA in the SF but thrashed France again in the 3rd/4th game.

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    @bovidae fair.

    That france team they played in the opener was dire, though. Not a patch on the bunch that showed up against us.

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    I will say that SA had the easiest QF opponent (Fiji) in 2007, and that is an advantage before a SF and final to avoid 3 intense playoff games in a row.

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    Stuff
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    great to see all the underperforming duds from this year getting long term deals. awesome!

    because if they don't make the ABs that contract isn't worth the paper it's written on

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    @booboo Haha, got my eras a bit mixed up. Pocock!

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    Well ABs play England at Twickers year fellas, just in case anyone wants to but me a ticket to a box this is price.

    (per person, includes seat in East Stand Lower tier, within 22s )
    The Gate £1,299.00 Available
    The Lock – Pitch view £1,499.00 Available
    The Lock – Main Restaurant £1,299.00 Available
    The East Wing – Pitch view £1,749.00 Available
    The East Wing – Main Restaurant £1,499.00 Available
    British Airways Rose Garden £899.00 Available
    South stand
    Rugby House £1,199.00 Available
    Players’ Lounge £1,299.00 Available

    And then if you want to eat there:
    Table of 2, £1,299.00 per person.

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    @dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

    Well ABs play England at Twickers year fellas, just in case anyone wants to but me a ticket to a box this is price.

    (per person, includes seat in East Stand Lower tier, within 22s )
    The Gate £1,299.00 Available
    The Lock – Pitch view £1,499.00 Available
    The Lock – Main Restaurant £1,299.00 Available
    The East Wing – Pitch view £1,749.00 Available
    The East Wing – Main Restaurant £1,499.00 Available
    British Airways Rose Garden £899.00 Available
    South stand
    Rugby House £1,199.00 Available
    Players’ Lounge £1,299.00 Available

    And then if you want to eat there:
    Table of 2, £1,299.00 per person.

    Premium Product = Premium Price
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    Is there a ticket category for “No tossers wearing polo shirts with the collar turned up “ ?

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    @crucial Would be great if John Mitchell was able offer some of his expertise on England for the All Blacks, I believe he and Eddie Jones had a falling out. Mitchell was a defence coach and his input could be valueable. I realise he maybe somewhat problematic, the end of year game against England, we'll need all the help we can get.

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by Frye
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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

    great to see all the underperforming duds from this year getting long term deals. awesome!

    Hard to look good though when your gameplan resembles (like you said) that of a bad NRL team.

    Let's hope that's the case anyway.

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    replied to Frye on last edited by
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    @frye said in All Blacks 2022:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2022:

    great to see all the underperforming duds from this year getting long term deals. awesome!

    Hard to look good though when your gameplan resembles (like you said) that of a bad NRL team.

    Let's hope that's the case anyway.

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    But i am unwilling to cut players too much slack when i see basics either being ignored or done poorly.

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