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  • StargazerS Offline
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    @Bones Swap Jordan and Reece, and Scott Barrett instead of Whitelock (because of his injury), and then it's close, I think.
    I'd also start Rieko instead of the mysterious Reiko.

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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    Really TAB?

    Screenshot_20220620-155725.png

    Wouldn't surprise me if that the team. Don't think there will be a lot of changes from that.

    It's one of the easiest teams to pick in ages yet the TAB still fuck it up.
    My guess is that RM and BB swap (for combination given the short prep), The wings are the other way around and that maybe Goodhue is on bench rather than LF

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    @Crucial Yep was going to add Goodhue, although I not sure which way they will go with BB and RMo.

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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    maybe Goodhue is on bench rather than LF

    I think that makes more sense. Better midfield cover and obviously Rieko can cover wing

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    #3170

    @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones Swap Jordan and Reece, and Scott Barrett instead of Whitelock (because of his injury), and then it's close, I think.
    I'd also start Rieko instead of the mysterious Reiko.

    Reiko the mysterious middle-aged Japanese woman?

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    To me, Goodhue starts or isn't in the 23. I don't think he adds a lot off the bench, where you want impact players.

    If Tu'inukuafe is considered the best LH scrummager then surely he starts too? The only problem is that a Tu'inukuafe-Laulala combo with Taylor doesn't provide a lot of ball-carrying from the front row. So we're back to the same problem. The best option is to start Taukei'aho to do the heavy lifting and use Taylor, Bower and Tu'ungafasi as subs. That won't happen, of course.

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    Has George Bower at least quietened the critics for now? 🙂

    That won't be far away from the team.

    I expect Scott Barrett to at least be in the 23. I would start him, but the TAB will probably be right.

    BB and RM may or may not swap the starting role.

    I'd be inclined to pick Jack Goodhue at 2nd five, but Dave Havili has put his hand up.

    Not sure about the bench props - Fozzie will learn more in camp about their relative abilities at scrum time. I'd like to see Ross on the bench.

    Pretty doubtful that Big Leicester goes straight into the 23. I'm not sure he's legitimate cover for anywhere other than 11 in his first test.

    Fozzie could outrage most of NZ by picking Crusaders from 10-14! 🙂

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    @Chris-B George Bower makes Otago fans like myself proud, his trajectory has been great to see! easily my 2nd fav George in Rugby

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    @FakatavaAllBlack said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Chris-B George Bower makes Otago fans like myself proud, his trajectory has been great to see! easily my 2nd fav George in Rugby

    After Bridge?

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    @Chris-B As I've said before, my concern about Bower is not what he does around the field, but his scrummaging against quality THs. The two games in SA will answer that question for him, and a few other props.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2022:

    Has George Bower at least quietened the critics for now? 🙂

    That won't be far away from the team.

    I expect Scott Barrett to at least be in the 23. I would start him, but the TAB will probably be right.

    BB and RM may or may not swap the starting role.

    I'd be inclined to pick Jack Goodhue at 2nd five, but Dave Havili has put his hand up.

    Not sure about the bench props - Fozzie will learn more in camp about their relative abilities at scrum time. I'd like to see Ross on the bench.

    Pretty doubtful that Big Leicester goes straight into the 23. I'm not sure he's legitimate cover for anywhere other than 11 in his first test.

    Fozzie could outrage most of NZ by picking Crusaders from 10-14! 🙂

    As a scrummaging unit the Chiefs FR handled everything thrown their way and even dominated a few times. It wouldn't be silly to have them together at some stage.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    To me, Goodhue starts or isn't in the 23. I don't think he adds a lot off the bench, where you want impact players.

    If Tu'inukuafe is considered the best LH scrummager then surely he starts too? The only problem is that a Tu'inukuafe-Laulala combo with Taylor doesn't provide a lot of ball-carrying from the front row. So we're back to the same problem. The best option is to start Taukei'aho to do the heavy lifting and use Taylor, Bower and Tu'ungafasi as subs. That won't happen, of course.

    Agree on Goodhue. 17 out of his 18 tests as a starter. The Goodhue/Ioane was the last combo they went with when Goodhue was fit. That way they could have Havili/RTS/Tupaea on the bench.

    Has the AB coaches said that about Karl T? I’m more of the view that he’s an insurance policy because Moody is out. They need to mix and match Laulala and Karl T.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    To me, Goodhue starts or isn't in the 23. I don't think he adds a lot off the bench, where you want impact players.

    If Tu'inukuafe is considered the best LH scrummager then surely he starts too? The only problem is that a Tu'inukuafe-Laulala combo with Taylor doesn't provide a lot of ball-carrying from the front row. So we're back to the same problem. The best option is to start Taukei'aho to do the heavy lifting and use Taylor, Bower and Tu'ungafasi as subs. That won't happen, of course.

    Agree on Goodhue. 17 out of his 18 tests as a starter. The Goodhue/Ioane was the last combo they went with when Goodhue was fit. That way they could have Havili/RTS/Tupaea on the bench.

    Has the AB coaches said that about Karl T? I’m more of the view that he’s an insurance policy because Moody is out. They need to mix and match Laulala and Karl T.

    I reckon they looked at what they had and realised they were extremely green in the LH dept so he was a panic selection.
    Ross is probably a better scrummager than Bower but maybe some combos between LH and hooker will sway decisions? Bower with Codie and Ross with Sami?

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #3179

    I think we can, and should, look to attack the Irish scrum. They were regularly under pressure against England and France, particularly on the LH side, so it makes sense to try to dominate there and get some momentum for your attack.

    @ACT-Crusader Here is what Plumtree said:

    “We see Karl as so important. He’s probably our strongest loosehead scrummager. We know what we face in the next five tests – pretty tough contests up front – so Karl’s experience is going to be massive.”

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
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    @Chris-B George Bower??? No.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

    Gcobani Bobo on the SuperSport program suggested the coaches pick Faainganuku at 12 and honestly it's not the worst idea.

    Was there a worse one? Did someone suggest picking Franks at 12?

    Yes, Schalk Burger suggested @Bones

    Too many shots to the head that guy

    Takes one to know one?

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

    Gcobani Bobo on the SuperSport program suggested the coaches pick Faainganuku at 12 and honestly it's not the worst idea.

    Was there a worse one? Did someone suggest picking Franks at 12?

    Yes, Schalk Burger suggested @Bones

    Too many shots to the head that guy

    Takes one to know one?

    Hey.

    @booboo

    This guy thinks he's you

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @pakman said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2022:

    @Frye said in All Blacks 2022:

    Gcobani Bobo on the SuperSport program suggested the coaches pick Faainganuku at 12 and honestly it's not the worst idea.

    Was there a worse one? Did someone suggest picking Franks at 12?

    Yes, Schalk Burger suggested @Bones

    Too many shots to the head that guy

    Takes one to know one?

    Hey.

    @booboo

    This guy thinks he's you

    Takes one to know one.

    Wait ... what? ...

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    wrote on last edited by KiwiMurph
    #3184

    Good news on Whitelock 🙂

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300619184/veteran-lock-sam-whitelock-cleared-to-plough-on-through-thumb-injury-for-all-blacks

    An All Blacks spokesperson told Stuff after a medical assessment on Tuesday when the squad assembled fully in Auckland, that the prognosis was encouraging enough for him to remain with the group with a view to playing a full part in the July series against Ireland.
    
    Whitelock’s thumb was said to be “improving” and the plan was for him to look after it for a few days, after which it was hoped he would be cleared to play a full part in the buildup for the opening test at Eden Park on July 2.
    
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    @KiwiMurph Think that was a media-hyped-up story. First appeared in the Ferald after the interview where he said it was no problem, and from there made its way to even some Japanese English media sites.
    Got the impression the Ferald were trying the "he shouldn't have played in the final" angle.

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