Baby Blacks
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in Baby Blacks:
@booboo lord knee injury, Gardiner is the donkey from crusaders & hey I rate MMT and I'm not from the bay🙂
I think that's twice now I have read Gardiner referred to as a donkey. He is a young guy just starting out at the higher levels. Give him a chance.
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@Chris said in Baby Blacks:
@Nepia said in Baby Blacks:
@Bovidae said in Baby Blacks:
@Nepia said in Baby Blacks:
Is Brial eligible for NZ via birth?
No, although I read that the Brial family spends part of the year in the Queenstown area. Having arguments over building plans with neighbours, so nothing has changed.
Is his Mum a Kiwi? If not then is he using residency? And then I'd assume that would needed to have started after he left school.
Joe has been in NZ since he was 8 so I presume Residency.
Not this lad? https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-brial-76024517b/?originalSubdomain=au
If he is the son of the guy who tried to dust up NZ rugby royalty I'm surprised his father managed to get through customs without walking funny..
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@nostrildamus said in Baby Blacks:
@Chris said in Baby Blacks:
@Nepia said in Baby Blacks:
@Bovidae said in Baby Blacks:
@Nepia said in Baby Blacks:
Is Brial eligible for NZ via birth?
No, although I read that the Brial family spends part of the year in the Queenstown area. Having arguments over building plans with neighbours, so nothing has changed.
Is his Mum a Kiwi? If not then is he using residency? And then I'd assume that would needed to have started after he left school.
Joe has been in NZ since he was 8 so I presume Residency.
Not this lad? https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-brial-76024517b/?originalSubdomain=auIf he is the son of the guy who tried to dust up NZ rugby royalty I'm surprised his father managed to get through customs without walking funny..
Thats the one
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I think the thread title and name "Baby Blacks" causes some confusion.
"Baby Blacks" was a nickname originally used for the All Blacks team that beat France in Christchurch in 1986 with a lot of debutants in the line-up. This is something that very few younger and non-NZ rugby fans will remember.
In recent times, the nickname has been used and is far more widely known for the NZ Under 20s team.
When referring to the "Baby Blacks", I think most people will think of the NZ Under 20s team.
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@Stargazer said in Baby Blacks:
I think the thread title and name "Baby Blacks" causes some confusion.
"Baby Blacks" was a nickname originally used for the All Blacks team that beat France in Christchurch in 1986 with a lot of debutants in the line-up. This is something that very few younger and non-NZ rugby fans will remember.
In recent times, the nickname has been used and is far more widely known for the NZ Under 20s team.
When referring to the "Baby Blacks", I think most people will think of the NZ Under 20s team.
not on here they won't given our demographic
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@mariner4life I definitely think of the NZ Under20s first. I assume that may have to do with the fact that I have no memory of that 1986 game at all. I was very young and lived in Europe at the time.
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@Stargazer said in Baby Blacks:
@mariner4life I definitely think of the NZ Under20s first. I assume that may have to do with the fact that I have no memory of that 1986 game at all. I was very young and lived in Europe at the time.
I don't. Maybe they could use a new name. Maybe the Black Diapers?
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@nostrildamus said in Baby Blacks:
@Stargazer said in Baby Blacks:
@mariner4life I definitely think of the NZ Under20s first. I assume that may have to do with the fact that I have no memory of that 1986 game at all. I was very young and lived in Europe at the time.
I don't. Maybe they could use a new name. Maybe the Black Diapers?
Is that because they will shit themselves when they see the opposition?
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@Stargazer said in Baby Blacks:
@mariner4life I definitely think of the NZ Under20s first. I assume that may have to do with the fact that I have no memory of that 1986 game at all. I was very young and lived in Europe at the time.
Can't say I've ever noticed the u20s being called the baby blacks. That's weird.
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@Stargazer said in Baby Blacks:
I think the thread title and name "Baby Blacks" causes some confusion.
"Baby Blacks" was a nickname originally used for the All Blacks team that beat France in Christchurch in 1986 with a lot of debutants in the line-up. This is something that very few younger and non-NZ rugby fans will remember.
In recent times, the nickname has been used and is far more widely known for the NZ Under 20s team.
When referring to the "Baby Blacks", I think most people will think of the NZ Under 20s team.
Hence the point of the post. NZR was backed into a corner in punishing the Cavaliers and had no choice but to pick a bunch of (relative) youngsters who then belied their supposed lack of required experience and won with many of them going on to be the basis of a new team. Much of the dead wood was cut.
Apply that history to now and consider what a fresh exciting team with potential might look like.
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@Stargazer said in Baby Blacks:
I think the thread title and name "Baby Blacks" causes some confusion.
"Baby Blacks" was a nickname originally used for the All Blacks team that beat France in Christchurch in 1986 with a lot of debutants in the line-up. This is something that very few younger and non-NZ rugby fans will remember.
In recent times, the nickname has been used and is far more widely known for the NZ Under 20s team.
When referring to the "Baby Blacks", I think most people will think of the NZ Under 20s team.
I refuse to use that name for anything other than the glorious XV that beat France in 1986.
"Most people" (which I dispute) are wrong.
Baby Blacks as a name is up there with The Originals and The Invincibles.
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@Nepia said in Baby Blacks:
@Bovidae said in Baby Blacks:
@booboo The surprise selection at 6 was a Wairarapa Bush player (Lochore being the coach).
Harvey? Had a glorious mo IIRC.
Yep, Brett Harvey. He was involved in the Brewer try. Undefeated as an AB.
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@Pepe said in Baby Blacks:
@nostrildamus said in Baby Blacks:
@Stargazer said in Baby Blacks:
@mariner4life I definitely think of the NZ Under20s first. I assume that may have to do with the fact that I have no memory of that 1986 game at all. I was very young and lived in Europe at the time.
I don't. Maybe they could use a new name. Maybe the Black Diapers?
Is that because they will shit themselves when they see the opposition?
Nappy rash is some scary shit!
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@FakatavaAllBlack said in Baby Blacks:
@Stargazer George Bell will be the first to make the all blacks out of that group I think, it's just a prediction I could very well be wrong
He’s having some trouble making the Canterbury team. McAllister/Klein are pretty handy. I watched all the U20’s game live and Bell would have to be player of the series IMO.
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Sullivan brothers. Zarn has a game made for test rugby and Bailyn is an excellent utility.
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@TheMojoman said in Baby Blacks:
Sullivan brothers. Zarn has a game made for test rugby and Bailyn is an excellent utility.
Bailyn’s game against Ireland has blotted his copybook in my opinion. Needs to put a run of excellent games together again.
I hope it was an off night because it was really off.
