Dissection Of The Funt

NTA

Goju uses a larger variety of punches, including uppercut and hook, but the straight punch is the most common for basics (kihon), either to head, torso, or groin

Sapetyvi

About the press exorcises, my mate who does crossfit (I know not the best of ideas to take hints from them) taught to me to do all pressing excorcises in the same manner as you would do a jerk. Exactly the way NTA says -elbows close to the body and narrowish grip. Much heavier to lift than wide grip 
Of course I do some snatch grip overhead presses and musclesquats becouse doing snatches without the supporting lifts is also asking for injury, but with more weight I always take narrower grip.

MN5

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About the press exorcises, my mate who does crossfit (I know not the best of ideas to take hints from them) taught to me to do all pressing excorcises in the same manner as you would do a jerk. Exactly the way NTA says -elbows close to the body and narrowish grip. Much heavier to lift than wide grip 
Of course I do some snatch grip overhead presses and musclesquats becouse doing snatches without the supporting lifts is also asking for injury, but with more weight I always take narrower grip.
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I take that advice with a grain of salt. If I lifted something slow, controlled and with "perfect" technique then the 1RM ends up going down. Depends if you're a bodybuilder or functional type powerlifter I guess. So in a sense it's shifting the biggest mass as best you can. 
 
I've never done "Crossfit" as such but I have done a few of the exercises and everything I read about it seems to point to the fact they do dangerous lifts with poor form. Plus all the wankfest terms and abbreviations definitely give them an air of real fuckwitness.
 
Almost as bad as craft beer drinkers.

NTA

Poor form isn't limited to Crossfit. The problem is a lot of Crossfit routines are time-based so people rush, and create bad form. Whoever runs the box needs to take on responsibility for that.

NTA

Gym this morning - guy was running late to open! 
Chinups: 3 sets of 4. Feeling much better about these 
Squats: 5 sets of 5 x 105kg. 
I was concentrating on going deeper here in the last two sets, then realised i need to drop weight, work on the mobility / flexibility more, and then build up again, doing it properly. 
In accordance with that, I dropped the weight on the remaining exercises 
Bench: 5 sets of 5 x 60kg 
Bent row: 5 sets of 5 x 60kg 
I trimmed the rest for the rows to 30s because I really had to leave. Got through them well but had to rest the full minute for last set as I was pretty knackered.

MN5

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Gym this morning - guy was running late to open! 
Chinups: 3 sets of 4. Feeling much better about these 
Squats: 5 sets of 5 x 105kg. 
I was concentrating on going deeper here in the last two sets, then realised i need to drop weight, work on the mobility / flexibility more, and then build up again, doing it properly. 
In accordance with that, I dropped the weight on the remaining exercises 
Bench: 5 sets of 5 x 60kg 
Bent row: 5 sets of 5 x 60kg 
I trimmed the rest for the rows to 30s because I really had to leave. Got through them well but had to rest the full minute for last set as I was pretty knackered.
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You're chinning up a storm, good work, I think chins are my favourite exercise at the moment.
 
Speaking from experience though, be very careful of tendonitis with all that volume. A sure way to fuck up all the good stuff you've done. Mate who I mentioned a week or two back still can't do a single one.

NTA

Once I get to sets of 5 consistently I'll switch to overhand grip (pullups)

MN5

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Once I get to sets of 5 consistently I'll switch to overhand grip (pullups)
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I reckon once you hit 10 for a set then chuck some weight on a belt but whatever suits. I find chins easier on the shoulders than pull ups although the latter are more functional for when the Zombie invasion starts.

JK

You're goin great guns nick. Keep it up

NTA

Thanks JK - it feels good to be doing something again. 
 
 
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I reckon once you hit 10 for a set then chuck some weight on a belt but whatever suits. I find chins easier on the shoulders than pull ups although the latter are more functional for when the Zombie invasion starts.
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Yeah climbing buildings and shit. Might transition using neutral grip chins - one set of chins, neutrals, and then narrow-grip pullups. Wide pullups aren't much good for anyone - flared elbows = bad.
 
To get back to 10 chinups I'll have to be down near 95kg body weight First weigh-in is next Tuesday and I doubt whether I've lost anything, but I feel better so that is what counts. Next four weeks will be about starting to burn the body fat and maybe looking at a little supplementary cardio

Rancid Schnitzel

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I take that advice with a grain of salt. If I lifted something slow, controlled and with "perfect" technique then the 1RM ends up going down. Depends if you're a bodybuilder or functional type powerlifter I guess. So in a sense it's shifting the biggest mass as best you can. 
 
I've never done "Crossfit" as such but I have done a few of the exercises and everything I read about it seems to point to the fact they do dangerous lifts with poor form. Plus all the wankfest terms and abbreviations definitely give them an air of real fuckwitness.
 
Almost as bad as craft beer drinkers.
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I did crossfit back in my PT days and wouldn't mind getting back into it. But, I refused to do any of those overhead lifts or Olympic lifts. That is not something you should do in a rush, while exhausted, or after multiple sets of other exercises. Nothing roots you more than crossfit and it's never something you look forward to doing. Because of that, the sense of achievement is high, which is probably why some people waank on about it.
 
Good going btw Nick!

Paekakboyz

As a beginner Olympic lifter (only really overheads atm) there is no fucking way I'd go for high volume/intensity workouts. No issue with more experienced folks going HAM but the concern is people pushing too hard too fast... without decent coaching or supervision. When Kirwan was doing his XF in Wellington and Auckland it sounded like he was training with good, knowledgeable folks. No risk for me though, too much cardio in XF!!

NTA

Strong lifts again tonight:
 
Chinups: 5, 3, 3
 
Squats: 80kg x 5 x 5 - really concentrated on getting the depth here. Asked the gym owner to critique the third set - recommended I put a couple of small plates under my heels because I was fallling forward a little trying to keep my balance. He said it was OK to go heavy for one session and no go quite as deep in order to get the feel of the weight as I build. Hmmm.... dunno. Would rather have the technique then build through.
 
Overhead press: 45kg x 5 x 3 sets, then dropped to 40kg as I was starting to arch the back. Again, get the technique right, rebuild
 
Deadlifts: 1 set of 5 x 125kg. That actually felt kind of easy so next week for my deadlift I'm going 130kg. Always the first one that is a struggle, then its fairly sweet.
 
Sled runs: 3 x 160kg. First one was pretty easy but was sucking in the big ones by the end.
 
Check this bloke out: he's pushing (by my count) 360kg + sled weight of about 65kg. If those are 20kg plates, that is.
 
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NTA

Played all of 2nd Grade today at prop. 70 minutes. About 25 scrums, and I threw a dozen shit lineouts. Even made a couple of tackles and effected a maul turnover. 
The best news: no funny vision. 
Second best news: won with a bonus point. 
My spine will not be thrilled tomorrow. 
Worth every second...

Cookie

Great news NTA, long may it continue.

NTA

Nup fuck that. 40 now. Too old. We were playing a white boy team and I only started because we were short. Then too many subs so I had to stay on. 
I'm the COACH FFS!

MN5

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Strong lifts again tonight:
 
Chinups: 5, 3, 3
 
Squats: 80kg x 5 x 5 - really concentrated on getting the depth here. Asked the gym owner to critique the third set - recommended I put a couple of small plates under my heels because I was fallling forward a little trying to keep my balance. He said it was OK to go heavy for one session and no go quite as deep in order to get the feel of the weight as I build. Hmmm.... dunno. Would rather have the technique then build through.
 
Overhead press: 45kg x 5 x 3 sets, then dropped to 40kg as I was starting to arch the back. Again, get the technique right, rebuild
 
Deadlifts: 1 set of 5 x 125kg. That actually felt kind of easy so next week for my deadlift I'm going 130kg. Always the first one that is a struggle, then its fairly sweet.
 
Sled runs: 3 x 160kg. First one was pretty easy but was sucking in the big ones by the end.
 
Check this bloke out: he's pushing (by my count) 360kg + sled weight of about 65kg. If those are 20kg plates, that is.
 
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When you're getting back into Deads after a long layoff it's fairly easy to add 5-10kg a set. Unlike benching when adding 0.5kg on each side might be enough to fuck it up for ya.

NTA

That's because benching sucks.
 
My 1RM for deadlift is about 160kg from memory, and my back was bowed for that because I was an idiot. If I keep adding 5-10kg a set I can get back there in the next month, but probably go further.
 
Was a bit sick after the weekend so will do my session this afternoon after choosing to sleep this morning. Fucking cold here in Sydney.

MN5

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That's because benching sucks.
 
My 1RM for deadlift is about 160kg from memory, and my back was bowed for that because I was an idiot. If I keep adding 5-10kg a set I can get back there in the next month, but probably go further.
 
Was a bit sick after the weekend so will do my session this afternoon after choosing to sleep this morning. Fucking cold here in Sydney.
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I can see you getting back there quicksmart but Paeks and JK will confirm easy to fuck it up if you go to hardout. Good to Google good technique etc, I think when doing 1RM or close to it the back will always arch to some degree.

NTA

I suppose I'm not really interested in going 1RMs until I hit some other goals - keeping this stronglift method going seems to be working, and I've not suffered any injuries to speak of.
 
Fuck playing rugby though. That shit will fuck you up.

The Silver Fern

Dissection Of The Funt