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  • FrankF Offline
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    Aaron Smith's comments that Argentina weren't playing to win and Ardie's delusion.....

    More evidence that the senior group of players' mindset are part of the problem along with Foster.

    Fozzie is the leader of a cult.

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  • Jailbreak7J Offline
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    #3885

    Sounds like the players are reaching for excuses to explain away their poor form on the field and lack of any coherent game plan or leadership.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    Can understand the players are finding this territory of public pressure uncomfortable, but some of the stuff coming out makes you scratch your head.

    Ardies response to the loosies play

    “I’m not too sure,” he responded. “Do you feel like we haven’t been dominating the last couple of games?
    “I felt like the loosies have been fronting up, and we’re just trying to navigate the space of a new breed of players.

    Ardie Savea fires back: 'Do you feel like we haven't been dominating?'

    Ardie Savea fires back: 'Do you feel like we haven't been dominating?'

    Ardie Savea has baulked at suggestions that the All Blacks loose forwards have been dominated by the opposition this year.

    Lol classic

    I'm playing awesome everyone else sucks

    Also cleaning rucks is for scrubs

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by KiwiMurph
    #3887

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    Can understand the players are finding this territory of public pressure uncomfortable, but some of the stuff coming out makes you scratch your head.

    Ardies response to the loosies play

    “I’m not too sure,” he responded. “Do you feel like we haven’t been dominating the last couple of games?
    “I felt like the loosies have been fronting up, and we’re just trying to navigate the space of a new breed of players.

    Ardie Savea fires back: 'Do you feel like we haven't been dominating?'

    Ardie Savea fires back: 'Do you feel like we haven't been dominating?'

    Ardie Savea has baulked at suggestions that the All Blacks loose forwards have been dominated by the opposition this year.

    Fuck me.

    I wish a journo would read out the breakdown turnover stats from the last match.

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  • BonesB Offline
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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2022:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2022:

    Can understand the players are finding this territory of public pressure uncomfortable, but some of the stuff coming out makes you scratch your head.

    Ardies response to the loosies play

    “I’m not too sure,” he responded. “Do you feel like we haven’t been dominating the last couple of games?
    “I felt like the loosies have been fronting up, and we’re just trying to navigate the space of a new breed of players.

    Ardie Savea fires back: 'Do you feel like we haven't been dominating?'

    Ardie Savea fires back: 'Do you feel like we haven't been dominating?'

    Ardie Savea has baulked at suggestions that the All Blacks loose forwards have been dominated by the opposition this year.

    Do they not do film sessions?

    Not sure Shawshank Redemption is going to help much.

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  • MachpantsM Online
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    #3889

    Back up to fourth, not so good for Oz in 8th. Lowest ever?

    1 Ireland 90.03
    2 France 89.41
    3 South Africa 87.89 (+1.42)
    4 (↑5) New Zealand 86.41 (+0.62)
    5 (↓4) England 86.25
    6 (↑7) Argentina 82.32 (-0.62)
    7 (↑8) Scotland 81.93
    8 (↓6) Australia 81.54 (-1.42)
    9 Wales 81.28
    10 Japan 77.74

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #3891

    An ALB update, as he returned to training yesterday.

    All going well, Lienert-Brown is targeting Waikato’s final regular season game against Bay of Plenty in Hamilton on October 2, though also threw out the possibility of an appearance for Thames Valley or King Country in the Heartland Championship.

    He has also been part of the Waikato coaching staff, not just running the water.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/129805946/injured-all-black-anton-lienertbrown-eyes-npc-return-after-coaching-stint

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2022:

    Back up to fourth, not so good for Oz in 8th. Lowest ever?

    1 Ireland 90.03
    2 France 89.41
    3 South Africa 87.89 (+1.42)
    4 (↑5) New Zealand 86.41 (+0.62)
    5 (↓4) England 86.25
    6 (↑7) Argentina 82.32 (-0.62)
    7 (↑8) Scotland 81.93
    8 (↓6) Australia 81.54 (-1.42)
    9 Wales 81.28
    10 Japan 77.74

    A 1.42 point shift is huge in the scheme of these rankings. I guess that in a period of volatility these shifts can happen depending on circumstance and timing.
    See how we only got a 0.62 point shift for thrashing a team that beat us the week before yet SA get a big lift in points (and Oz a big drop) for a standard tit for tat win.

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  • nzzpN Online
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    @Crucial said in All Blacks 2022:

    See how we only got a 0.62 point shift for thrashing a team that beat us the week before yet SA get a big lift in points (and Oz a big drop) for a standard tit for tat win.

    Away though, rather than at home ... and the context of not having won there for years!

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    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

    Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools
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    do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

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  • MachpantsM Online
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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

    Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools
    1c50c269-c6a2-4848-b066-6eb1de091732-image.png

    do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

    Considering all his changes away from preferred options so far have been due to injuries, or (in the case of coaches) forced on by outside pressure, he won't play him there.

    Once he had chosen he sticks too long, and with those he hasn't chosen yet he flip flops all over the place. I hope I'm wrong

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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
    #3896

    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

    Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools
    1c50c269-c6a2-4848-b066-6eb1de091732-image.png

    do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

    Hopefully the performance was so clear the pressure internally will be to provide Jordie another outing to back up that performance. The ridicule from outside the camp would be enormous.

    But I share your opinion.

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    replied to antipodean on last edited by
    #3897

    @antipodean said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

    Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools
    1c50c269-c6a2-4848-b066-6eb1de091732-image.png

    do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

    Hopefully the performance was so clear the pressure internally will be to provide Jordie another outing to back up that performance. The ridicule from outside the camp would be enormous.

    But I share your opinion.

    the top team doesn't run out again for 6 weeks. Everyone will have forgotten by then in a beautiful case of "what have you done for me lately?"

    Someone will play 12 against Japan and score 3 tries and will be anointed new saviour

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #3898

    The All Blacks will name a squad on October 9 to face Japan, Wales, Scotland and England, with about 35 players set to travel north.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130011664/all-blacks-northern-tour-what-to-expect-in-ian-fosters-squad-as-leon-macdonald-firms-as-feeder-side-coach

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    replied to Bovidae on last edited by Victor Meldrew
    #3899

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:

    The All Blacks will name a squad on October 9 to face Japan, Wales, Scotland and England, with about 35 players set to travel north.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/130011664/all-blacks-northern-tour-what-to-expect-in-ian-fosters-squad-as-leon-macdonald-firms-as-feeder-side-coach

    Reading that, I'm feeling a bit more confident that NZR have finally started to get their act together. There's a lot to like about the interaction between Foster & McDonald's teams.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Stargazer
    #3900

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    And Darcy Swine will be back playing in November. 🤬

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Bovidae
    #3901

    That's bad news. Swain is even more of a piston wristed gibbon to me.

    Edit: Swine might be a better word to use, as it was a pig move. 😠

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  • nostrildamusN Offline
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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #3902

    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe 2:

    @antipodean said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

    Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools
    1c50c269-c6a2-4848-b066-6eb1de091732-image.png

    do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

    Hopefully the performance was so clear the pressure internally will be to provide Jordie another outing to back up that performance. The ridicule from outside the camp would be enormous.

    But I share your opinion.

    the top team doesn't run out again for 6 weeks. Everyone will have forgotten by then in a beautiful case of "what have you done for me lately?"

    Someone will play 12 against Japan and score 3 tries and will be anointed new saviour

    I think you underestimate the Jordie Barrett White Knight Society!

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  • Dan54D Offline
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    replied to Machpants on last edited by Dan54
    #3903

    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe 2:

    @Machpants said in Bledisloe 2:

    Jeez that is fucken impressive, even against oz playing like tools
    1c50c269-c6a2-4848-b066-6eb1de091732-image.png

    do we actually think Fozzie will look at that and consider him a 12 now, he just strikes me as too stubborn

    Considering all his changes away from preferred options so far have been due to injuries, or (in the case of coaches) forced on by outside pressure, he won't play him there.

    Once he had chosen he sticks too long, and with those he hasn't chosen yet he flip flops all over the place. I hope I'm wrong

    I wouldn't be surprised if Havili doesn't get another go at 12. Generally in ABs you don't lose spot because of injury. I was mightily impressed with Jordie on Saturday, but thought week before was more impressive as he was thrown in with no warning. I like the idea of him there because of the run,kick, and bust options he gives us, just also thought Havili was ok too. Jordie is sure to get a couple of runs during eEOYT I guess, and with a solid backline (not pussy Foley and co) hopefully he repeats performance.
    I wouldn't be surprised if Mariner hasn't hit nail on head, RTS or someone will get a run against Japan and go well and we will be able to see him annointed as 12!!

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