The hot takes and unpopular opinions
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@Catogrande RIP The Gunmakers in Clerkenwell. Just hope The Griffin is still going.
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@Catogrande said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
I canāt speak for Aus or NZ but I fear that the lovely picture you paint of the typical English pub is one that is getting rarer and rarer. So many pubs are being closed down and many others being hoovered up into a mass of corporate sameness. Oh and donāt get me started on Irish āthemeā pubs.
I think there is a real town / country divide here.
Around us once you venture out of the town you have Red Lion, Cricketers which are beautiful standard English pubs full of vibrance and atmosphere. Tough to get a table. The Victoria used to be an old mans pub which has just totally been redone & is now up there with the other two. The Sands was my local, which unfortunately closed at Covid and hasn't reopened. It's up for sale at the moment. As you go further afield there are countless more.
However, in town it's Wetherspoons (dodgy as fuck), Slug Lettuce & one another which I've never been in. Reeks of blandness.
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@MajorRage yeah in twells we had some great locals, 3 within less than 5 minutes. In orps we have the shitty high street ones and go the other way to Petts Wood there's a harvester I think and a spoons. But venture a bit further (15 min bus) and you get stuff like the five bells in chelsfield.
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Paranormal Activity
The usual normal, overhyped no-action garbage
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@Catogrande said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
5 Bells still going strong! That does my heart proud. What about the Bo Peep?
Yeah I'm not gonna google that.
Edit: We only discovered the five bells by pure chance - bus from right outside our house during the fuel crisis and that was the closest we could get to the farm shop. Happy accident!
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@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Catogrande said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
5 Bells still going strong! That does my heart proud. What about the Bo Peep?
Yeah I'm not gonna google that.
Youāve not been then? Itās just up the lane a bit from Chelsfield. Used to be a cracking pub albeit a bit twee.
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@Catogrande oh yeah have seen that one on the bus ride home! Haven't been as it looked like silver hair is a requirement.
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UK vs NZ vs Aus pubs... I've come to the conclusion that there's shit ones, and good ones (with character) - in each country... but in each country, the "flavour" of the good/shit is slightly different.
In the UK - you get the corporate bland shit like Wetherspoons, Slug/Lettuce, All-Bar-One, etc. Even, to a lesser extent, the 'chain country pubs' - Harvesters was one, I think? "Hungry Horse"? Some others... those places in the countryside - that are big bland chain attempts at replicating the "good". And then the good - the classic village pubs, hitting your head on crossbeams every time you go for a piss. Sometimes a beer-garden on a canal.
NZ - it's nearly the reverse, in the North Island at least. Just off the top of my head - really shitty bland country pubs, with some farming tools on the wall in an attempt to be "character" - but really... shit beers on tap, and just... country-bogan. And a very few decent bars in some of the cities. Although I'm probably prejudiced, as most of the bars I frequent - in my 2 years back in-country, I'm already known to the staff, and typically get staff/hospo discount.
South Island - might be reversed again? Some classic country pubs - my recollection of Chch bars (admittedly-pre-earthquake) - was decidedly Slug/Lettuce/All-Bar-One-esqueAus - I don't have a wide experience... but my feel was more of a UK pattern.... plenty of shit "glossy/corporate bars" in towns, with some fucking cracker country pubs... and in Melbourne at least, some quirky fucking-random country-type-pubs in the middle of the city.
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@Catogrande said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
That upsets me
You could call it an unpopular opinion
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@Kruse said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
In the UK - you get the corporate bland shit like Wetherspoons, Slug/Lettuce, All-Bar-One, etc. Even, to a lesser extent, the 'chain country pubs' - Harvesters was one, I think? "Hungry Horse"? Some others... those places in the countryside - that are big bland chain attempts at replicating the "good". And then the good - the classic village pubs, hitting your head on crossbeams every time you go for a piss. Sometimes a beer-garden on a canal.
We have quite a few decent pubs in our area - my Local is a community Pub in the village community centre which does a good range of beer and wine. Loads of Gastropubs down our way. Some have managed to combine the "local" feel with decent food, other's haven't and it's just a restaurant with a pub theme, sadly.
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@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
I fucken love Hungry Horse.
I remember a Burger shop in Welly and/or Lower Hutt called the Hungry Horse. It was great.
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I feel quite lucky. My local is a converted villa free house with a constantly changing ten taps. They don't allow smoking anywhere on site, have no pokies. They have about 40 different whisky's and a similarly broad range of the other mains spirits a small but decent range of wines.
I'm not a dog person at all but they are 'dog friendly' which is unusual in NZ. They even take a snap shot of all the pooches and have a gallery of dog mug shots on either side of their take out fridge.
Owner is a decent guy, works hard, knowledgeable, not averse to locking you in if its a good night - makes sure he chats to everyone and looks after his locals. I enjoy a reasonable discount. All the staff are friendly and know the beer on offer. Good mix of locals and walk ups. Locals acknowledge you and will have a chat if you want or leave me alone (my preference usually). Plus a really good kitchen that isn't just your normal deep fried shit run by a group of Koreans who manage to produce a lot of food from a kitchen smaller than my one at home.
The only downside is - as I've said before - you pay for the privilege. Mine host would get $20K a year off me.
Overall there's still too many bland chain type pubs around. 100 metres from my local is a Good Home. But they serve a need. Lots of people want bland. I usually manage to find a decent place serving good beer with a reasonable atmosphere without much difficulty when I travel. Or a dossers pub which would be my second choice.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
@Bones said in The hot takes and unpopular opinions:
I fucken love Hungry Horse.
I remember a Burger shop in Welly and/or Lower Hutt called the Hungry Horse. It was great.