My Turn ... Running Down A Dream
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So August. Fucking August.
Managed to shed a lousy 1.2kg which isn't really bad considering the amount of beer / wine / meat consumed. But it still leaves me around 3.5kg short of where I want to be in 5 weeks. This will be tough, and honestly, not possible. I have to maintain a certain level of intake to cover all the running I do without losing too much energy. Although the reality is that I need to do more fat-burning in my running by slowing down. But I hate running slow (well, it's all relative). 5:41 per km is 4 hour marathon pace, and thats what I generally try and run at. Anyway, 4.5 weeks to go now so it is what it is. Diet has been commenced. No booze, no sugar (outside running gels), limited carbs, lots of eggs/egg whites and colossal levels of fruit & veg. The arse gas in the Rage household is off the scale.
Running. Hell yeah, what an August. 23 runs for a whopping 285km run. Beats my previous record mark of 234 by 51k. So that leaves me tracking at 1680k for the year (more than last years record year already) with 4 months to go. The program has me running another 240 odd km in September. Yowser. Really cautious about injuries, truly my biggest fear now. The running socks provide a good amount of support - both mentally and physically. Longest training run coming up on Friday, a mere 34km. My long runs have been really up and down.
First one of 24km went ok, perhaps a bit harder on me than I'd have liked. We then went camping the next week, so subsequently the next weekends one was awful. 27k which I really struggled with. Slow, really high HR and lots of time in training zone 5. Also took me a long time to recover. Went out that evening and was still fully exhausted. Luckily, things improved after that with the next one of 25k relatively easy, with a sub 150 HR. Then last week was 31k which I arguably found easiest of them all. So very encouraging. This Friday's 34k though will sort out the men from the boys. Thats right on the cusp, if not over, hitting the wall territory, so I do expect to struggle a bit.
Next update post marathon on October 3rd.
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@majorrage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
So August. Fucking August.
Managed to shed a lousy 1.2kg which isn't really bad considering the amount of beer / wine / meat consumed. But it still leaves me around 3.5kg short of where I want to be in 5 weeks. This will be tough, and honestly, not possible. I have to maintain a certain level of intake to cover all the running I do without losing too much energy. Although the reality is that I need to do more fat-burning in my running by slowing down. But I hate running slow (well, it's all relative). 5:41 per km is 4 hour marathon pace, and thats what I generally try and run at. Anyway, 4.5 weeks to go now so it is what it is. Diet has been commenced. No booze, no sugar (outside running gels), limited carbs, lots of eggs/egg whites and colossal levels of fruit & veg. The arse gas in the Rage household is off the scale.
Running. Hell yeah, what an August. 23 runs for a whopping 285km run. Beats my previous record mark of 234 by 51k. So that leaves me tracking at 1680k for the year (more than last years record year already) with 4 months to go. The program has me running another 240 odd km in September. Yowser. Really cautious about injuries, truly my biggest fear now. The running socks provide a good amount of support - both mentally and physically. Longest training run coming up on Friday, a mere 34km. My long runs have been really up and down.
First one of 24km went ok, perhaps a bit harder on me than I'd have liked. We then went camping the next week, so subsequently the next weekends one was awful. 27k which I really struggled with. Slow, really high HR and lots of time in training zone 5. Also took me a long time to recover. Went out that evening and was still fully exhausted. Luckily, things improved after that with the next one of 25k relatively easy, with a sub 150 HR. Then last week was 31k which I arguably found easiest of them all. So very encouraging. This Friday's 34k though will sort out the men from the boys. Thats right on the cusp, if not over, hitting the wall territory, so I do expect to struggle a bit.
Next update post marathon on October 3rd.
You generally can't outtrain a shit diet but with those running stats you must be eating for 5!
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@rancid-schnitzel said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@majorrage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
So August. Fucking August.
Managed to shed a lousy 1.2kg which isn't really bad considering the amount of beer / wine / meat consumed. But it still leaves me around 3.5kg short of where I want to be in 5 weeks. This will be tough, and honestly, not possible. I have to maintain a certain level of intake to cover all the running I do without losing too much energy. Although the reality is that I need to do more fat-burning in my running by slowing down. But I hate running slow (well, it's all relative). 5:41 per km is 4 hour marathon pace, and thats what I generally try and run at. Anyway, 4.5 weeks to go now so it is what it is. Diet has been commenced. No booze, no sugar (outside running gels), limited carbs, lots of eggs/egg whites and colossal levels of fruit & veg. The arse gas in the Rage household is off the scale.
Running. Hell yeah, what an August. 23 runs for a whopping 285km run. Beats my previous record mark of 234 by 51k. So that leaves me tracking at 1680k for the year (more than last years record year already) with 4 months to go. The program has me running another 240 odd km in September. Yowser. Really cautious about injuries, truly my biggest fear now. The running socks provide a good amount of support - both mentally and physically. Longest training run coming up on Friday, a mere 34km. My long runs have been really up and down.
First one of 24km went ok, perhaps a bit harder on me than I'd have liked. We then went camping the next week, so subsequently the next weekends one was awful. 27k which I really struggled with. Slow, really high HR and lots of time in training zone 5. Also took me a long time to recover. Went out that evening and was still fully exhausted. Luckily, things improved after that with the next one of 25k relatively easy, with a sub 150 HR. Then last week was 31k which I arguably found easiest of them all. So very encouraging. This Friday's 34k though will sort out the men from the boys. Thats right on the cusp, if not over, hitting the wall territory, so I do expect to struggle a bit.
Next update post marathon on October 3rd.
You generally can't outtrain a shit diet but with those running stats you must be eating for 5!
I'm not really a massive eater, but I do find since WFH I do tend to snack a lot. But August problem was the beer. I had two 3-day holidays with far too much boozing going on to reverse any gains.
Having said that, I've weighed in this week consistently around 0.7kg lower than my first one. So I'm more like 2kg lost, which seems about right to me. Ran 34k this morning (went ok, bit slower than wanted, but only had mini wall at the 30k mark) and ditched another 2kg doing that, so I could cheat and argue I lost 4kg ...
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Phew. Glad that's fucking over.
I’d been a bit ill (thanks Autumn, kids back to school) in the week leading up, so had taken it easy and missed out my last 10 days training. I woke up on Sunday though feeling not too bad, although I had pre-race anxiety as bad as I’d ever experienced. At the start-line I saw a few people going through worse (2 pukes, one trouser incident), so maybe I did ok …
I started off slow, aiming for a 4:15 (the 4 hours target was toast due to ill health) and my Garmin immediately decided to go and shit the bed. GPS was fine, but the health / hr stats were a mess (HR at 180 after 2 mins ... then down to 75. WTF?) , so I just played what was in front of me. Could feel I was not quite 100% through the first 5k so kept around a 5:45 p/km pace. No idea what happened but at the 20k mark I suddenly felt amazing! Not sure why, but the next hour was brilliant. But yeah, then along came “The Wall” at 34k & that was that. I was toast. Managed to “jalk” the last 8k though, and then my right calf finally gave up the ghost with about 1k to go. Ended up crossing the line at 4:23. Was I disappointed? Absolutely not. I gave it everything, absolutely everything, and that’s all I had that day. No regrets.
I actually think if I hadn't been ill, I wouldn't have broken 4 hours. I suspect around 4:05-4:10. I could have run the first 30 odd km at perhaps 15-20 secs faster then slowed down similar rate to 34k, but after that I could feel was fitness/weight related fail.
As for the day … What. A. Day. My relationship with London has been a bit fractious since we moved here in 2017, but yesterday it shone like only it can. 42km of utterly relentless cheering, support, celebrations, noise, music – across all cultures and all walks of life. It is indescribable what it feels like to run through this. Tower Bridge, Canary Wharf and all the way down embankment was just a cacophony of noise. 100% of it positive. I must have run past 50 different musical events from all walks of life. Even the crowds outside the dodgy pubs on Isle of Dogs were full of unwavering support! Seriously unreal. I recorded a video message for friends / sponsors as I turned onto the the Mall, and properly choked up. Incredibly emotional moment.
Very stiff this morning, but also very satisfied. Cannot see me running another one unless I lose at least 10-15 pounds. Extra ballast you carry just kills you. I really enjoy the half distance, think that's more for me. And I cannot see how any other marathon, anywhere in the world, could get even close to what I experienced yesterday. I honestly feel emotional thinking about it right now.
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@majorrage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
Phew. Glad that's fucking over.
I’d been a bit ill (thanks Autumn, kids back to school) in the week leading up, so had taken it easy and missed out my last 10 days training. I woke up on Sunday though feeling not too bad, although I had pre-race anxiety as bad as I’d ever experienced. At the start-line I saw a few people going through worse (2 pukes, one trouser incident), so maybe I did ok …
I started off slow, aiming for a 4:15 (the 4 hours target was toast due to ill health) and my Garmin immediately decided to go and shit the bed. GPS was fine, but the health / hr stats were a mess (HR at 180 after 2 mins ... then down to 75. WTF?) , so I just played what was in front of me. Could feel I was not quite 100% through the first 5k so kept around a 5:45 p/km pace. No idea what happened but at the 20k mark I suddenly felt amazing! Not sure why, but the next hour was brilliant. But yeah, then along came “The Wall” at 34k & that was that. I was toast. Managed to “jalk” the last 8k though, and then my right calf finally gave up the ghost with about 1k to go. Ended up crossing the line at 4:23. Was I disappointed? Absolutely not. I gave it everything, absolutely everything, and that’s all I had that day. No regrets.
I actually think if I hadn't been ill, I wouldn't have broken 4 hours. I suspect around 4:05-4:10. I could have run the first 30 odd km at perhaps 15-20 secs faster then slowed down similar rate to 34k, but after that I could feel was fitness/weight related fail.
As for the day … What. A. Day. My relationship with London has been a bit fractious since we moved here in 2017, but yesterday it shone like only it can. 42km of utterly relentless cheering, support, celebrations, noise, music – across all cultures and all walks of life. It is indescribable what it feels like to run through this. Tower Bridge, Canary Wharf and all the way down embankment was just a cacophony of noise. 100% of it positive. I must have run past 50 different musical events from all walks of life. Even the crowds outside the dodgy pubs on Isle of Dogs were full of unwavering support! Seriously unreal. I recorded a video message for friends / sponsors as I turned onto the the Mall, and properly choked up. Incredibly emotional moment.
Very stiff this morning, but also very satisfied. Cannot see me running another one unless I lose at least 10-15 pounds. Extra ballast you carry just kills you. I really enjoy the half distance, think that's more for me. And I cannot see how any other marathon, anywhere in the world, could get even close to what I experienced yesterday. I honestly feel emotional thinking about it right now.
That's awesome Mate, especially with the illness and the Garmin conking out (that must have sucked).
Marathons are a strange beast. There are times that you feel great and totally comfortable and then completely hit the wall. The quads and hammies just "locking up" is not something to recommend.
Bask in the glory and I'll bet you go at it next year as well 😉
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Through 2000k running for the year yesterday! Beat my target by 2 months.
Body has really welcomed the break since the marathon though - 2 full weeks off, then only light runs since. Just the one 10k (which oddly, was my best run by a mile) since.
Not sure what revised target will be. 2,500 is certainly out of reach as is 2,400 I think. Will just plod a long and see how we go.
Commence the 4 hour body diet today too, so lack of carbs will likely deplete running energy somewhat too. Time will tell.
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@majorrage Well done mate , keep up the good work!
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We're back. Not 100% confirmed yet, but I think 2023 New York Marathon is a go.
I'm aiming to be at 85 kg when I START the training for that. The last few marathons I've been too heavy for a good time, basically have started training around 92-95kg. Have run them between sort of 85-88, so I'm hoping to start train at 85, and run at 80-81 which gives me a much better chance of smashing the 4 hour barrier.
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@voodoo said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
In case you need further inspiration, check out this dude, he's due to finish a 3,800 trot on Day 46 this evening at Bondi
23 ? He looks about 63 !
Long distance running is not good for you. Makes one look too old and gaunt.
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@MajorRage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
New York marathon confirmed.
93.4 kg currently. 4 months out need to be 85. So that gives me 5 months to lose 8.5 kg.
Time for some serious graft. Will be 46 by then, so will be tough to improve times.
That's great news, mate. Hope it all goes well.
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@MajorRage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
New York marathon confirmed.
93.4 kg currently. 4 months out need to be 85. So that gives me 5 months to lose 8.5 kg.
Time for some serious graft. Will be 46 by then, so will be tough to improve times.
Damn I wish I was 93.4kg…
I might start one of these threads of my own - I have entered the Port Mac Ironman this May - just over 3 months to get into some sort of shape to get through it
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@voodoo said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@MajorRage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
New York marathon confirmed.
93.4 kg currently. 4 months out need to be 85. So that gives me 5 months to lose 8.5 kg.
Time for some serious graft. Will be 46 by then, so will be tough to improve times.
Damn I wish I was 93.4kg…
I might start one of these threads of my own - I have entered the Port Mac Ironman this May - just over 3 months to get into some sort of shape to get through it
I look a bit emaciated at 93kg, 100kg suits me ok these days.
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@MN5 said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@voodoo said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
@MajorRage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
New York marathon confirmed.
93.4 kg currently. 4 months out need to be 85. So that gives me 5 months to lose 8.5 kg.
Time for some serious graft. Will be 46 by then, so will be tough to improve times.
Damn I wish I was 93.4kg…
I might start one of these threads of my own - I have entered the Port Mac Ironman this May - just over 3 months to get into some sort of shape to get through it
I look a bit emaciated at 93kg, 100kg suits me ok these days.
I do too, but it’s going to be a necessary evil
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Yeah, well Im 177cm 5"9.5'. Put that in perspective.
Reading the thread, it's a bit of a rotation. Get fat. Try and lose weight to train for a fast marathon. Fail to lose what I want. Not get my time.
Will this time be any different? Hard to tell, but I hope not ....
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@MajorRage said in My Turn ... Running Down A Dream:
Yeah, well Im 177cm 5"9.5'. Put that in perspective.
Reading the thread, it's a bit of a rotation. Get fat. Try and lose weight to train for a fast marathon. Fail to lose what I want. Not get my time.
Will this time be any different? Hard to tell, but I hope not ....
Yeah, OK - I'm 6'2 so I guess that evens us out!
OK, I'm starting a thread of my own so I don't hijack yours anymore
Looking forward to everyone keeping each other honest around here and knocking off some 2023 goals
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@MajorRage Awesome. Good luck!
