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    replied to Bovidae on last edited by Duluth
    #806

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    An example of the muddled selections of this team

    Maybe the AB selectors picked the squad and then MacDonald and McMillan picked the 23?

    The selection logic is not consistent

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    #807

    For those who remember the 70s and can't use Instagram ...

    1: Aidan Ross (26, Bay of Plenty / Chiefs)
    2: Brodie McAlister (25, Canterbury / Crusaders)
    3: Tevita Mafileo (24, Bay of Plenty / Hurricanes)
    4: Josh Dickson (27, Otago / Highlanders)
    5: Patrick Tuipulotu – Captain (29, Auckland / Blues)
    6: Dominic Gardiner (21, Canterbury / Crusaders)
    7: Luke Jacobson (25, Waikato / Chiefs)
    8: Marino Mikaele-Tu’u (24, Hawke’s Bay / Highlanders)
    9: TJ Perenara - Vice-Captain (30, Wellington / Hurricanes)
    10: Damian McKenzie (27, Waikato / Chiefs)
    11: AJ Lam (24, Auckland / Blues)
    12: Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (29, Auckland / Blues)
    13: Braydon Ennor (25, Canterbury / Crusaders)
    14: Shaun Stevenson (25, North Harbour / Chiefs)
    15: Ruben Love (21, Wellington / Hurricanes)

    16: Tyrone Thompson (22, Hawke’s Bay / Chiefs)
    17: Finlay Brewis (22, Canterbury / Crusaders)
    18: Tamaiti Williams (22, Canterbury / Crusaders)
    19: Zach Gallagher (21, Canterbury / Crusaders)
    20: Christian Lio-Willie (24, Otago / Crusaders)
    21: Cam Roigard (21, Counties Manukau / Hurricanes)
    22: Josh Ioane (27, Otago / Chiefs)
    23: Alex Nankivell (26, Ta$man / Chiefs)

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    #808

    @booboo said in All Blacks XV:

    For those who remember the 70s and can't use Instagram ...

    1: Aidan Ross (26, Bay of Plenty / Chiefs)
    2: Brodie McAlister (25, Canterbury / Crusaders)
    3: Tevita Mafileo (24, Bay of Plenty / Hurricanes)
    4: Josh Dickson (27, Otago / Highlanders)
    5: Patrick Tuipulotu – Captain (29, Auckland / Blues)
    6: Dominic Gardiner (21, Canterbury / Crusaders)
    7: Luke Jacobson (25, Waikato / Chiefs)
    8: Marino Mikaele-Tu’u (24, Hawke’s Bay / Highlanders)
    9: TJ Perenara - Vice-Captain (30, Wellington / Hurricanes)
    10: Damian McKenzie (27, Waikato / Chiefs)
    11: AJ Lam (24, Auckland / Blues)
    12: Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (29, Auckland / Blues)
    13: Braydon Ennor (25, Canterbury / Crusaders)
    14: Shaun Stevenson (25, North Harbour / Chiefs)
    15: Ruben Love (21, Wellington / Hurricanes)

    16: Tyrone Thompson (22, Hawke’s Bay / Chiefs)
    17: Finlay Brewis (22, Canterbury / Crusaders)
    18: Tamaiti Williams (22, Canterbury / Crusaders)
    19: Zach Gallagher (21, Canterbury / Crusaders)
    20: Christian Lio-Willie (24, Otago / Crusaders)
    21: Cam Roigard (21, Counties Manukau / Hurricanes)
    22: Josh Ioane (27, Otago / Chiefs)
    23: Alex Nankivell (26, Ta$man / Chiefs)

    LOL. That is fucking me! I couldn't work out how to see the team in the Instagram post and gave up thinking someone will post it properly sooner or later. And yes, I do remember the 70s, but only just.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #809

    The match thread has the team list as text.

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    #810

    Aumua Sullivan Heem and Nankivell were all original selections as midfielders. Wonder how many of them will get a start in midfield on this tour.
    For all those calling for better all round skills in our front rowers the front row replacement selections are a step the other way. A bit like saying we don't have the skills to improve your scrummaging but we can help you maul better.
    The loosies are odd also in who is starting in what position. Thought Gardner is mainly a bench choice and Luke J is a number 8 option foremost and MMT showed promise as a 6.

    That all said I do wonder if other options may have ruled themselves out.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV:

    The match thread has the team list as text.

    So does this one now 🙂

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    #812

    Do we know how to watch this in various countries?

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    #813

    Haven't watched much NPC but from what I saw in SR, Gardner is as average as they come. How is he in this team? Has he stood out for Canterbury?

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    @akan004 iIRC he looked handy when he got on for the Crusaders, but wasnt as good in NPC

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks XV:

    @akan004 iIRC he looked handy when he got on for the Crusaders, but wasnt as good in NPC

    He was completely outplayed in the NPC final by Delany, Blackwell and Bird at lineout time and he fell off a couple one on one tackles.

    NZ Rugby need to stop selecting teams before the final has been played. No better measure of a player than when the heat is on. Gardiner isn't up to International standard. (yet)

    Same goes for the non-selection of Cullen Grace in the ABs earlier this year when he was an obvious stand-out in the Super final.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV:

    Do we know how to watch this in various countries?

    I can't find any other official source than Virgin 2, in Ireland. It's free to air so you may be able to get it to work with a VPN.

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    #817

    @Bones thanks heaps!

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    #818

    Josh Ioane is such a pointless selection considering that McKenzie and Love both play 10.

    Ioane doesn't have a future with ABs anyway, he's already 28, not worth investing in.

    Swap him out for Bailyn Sullivan on the bench, he can play anywhere from 11-15.

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    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks XV:

    Josh Ioane is such a pointless selection considering that McKenzie and Love both play 10.

    Ioane doesn't have a future with ABs anyway, he's already 28, not worth investing in.

    Swap him out for Bailyn Sullivan on the bench, he can play anywhere from 11-15.

    But if 10s start dropping like flies next year ala 2011, Ioane could very easily get a call up given he’s been there before.

    Love isn’t going to get the call up.

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    #820

    @ACT-Crusader

    After Mo'unga, Barrett - McKenzie, Perofeta, Havili (yes), all capped, more experienced in the environment & better options at 10 in an emergency.

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    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks XV:

    @ACT-Crusader

    After Mo'unga, Barrett - McKenzie, Perofeta, Havili (yes), all capped, more experienced in the environment & better options at 10 in an emergency.

    They might even put Jordie near the end of that list, maybe before Havili...

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    Based on that DMac should be in the RWC squad.

    Patty T, Gardiner, M M-T, TJP, RTS, Stevenson and Love all putting their hand up too. I hope the selectors will keep an eye on them all in 2023.

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    @sparky RWC squads aren't that big. If a player is added, at least one other has to drop out. I can see Dmac make the squad instead of Perofeta, but I expect that Love will have to wait until the next RWC unless there's more than one injury at fullback.

    I hate TJP's slow passes, so that's a big 'no' from me.

    PT will be challenging Vaa'i.

    Gardiner will only get a look in if Blackadder doesn't get back to his good form, but even then it will be hard to knock someone out of the team. I can't see it happening. 2027 RWC, yes.

    MMT is competing with Sotutu who hasn't been very convincing and MMT is a more physical specimen, but it's harder to drop out of the squad than to get in, so it will maybe only happen in case of injury.

    RTS hasn't been that convincing (especially his positioning and defence are weak) and I can't see him in the RWC squad if Tupaea (who has a much higher ceiling) can get back to full fitness.

    Stevenson is probably competing with Jordan. If Jordan is injured, maybe, although I'd also happily swap him for Clarke, who I find disappointing (hopefully he proves me wrong this month, because he has great potential).

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    @Stargazer it would be nice if one of Tupaea or RTS really kicked on next year. Both have real issues on defence they need to iron out. I'm skeptical for both.

    Agreed that MMT is putting real pressure on Sotutu.

    Whilst Clarke still has a lot of improvement he is the first choice left wing who has a great bounce back year this year. His power in the backs has really helped the attack.

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    @Stargazer said in All Blacks XV:

    MMT is competing with Sotutu who hasn't been very convincing

    Sotutu has barely played so he hasn't had a chance to be very convincing or not convincing (and the one match he did play he was pretty good) - and obviously I want MMT in the ABs.

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