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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to Donsteppa on last edited by Chris
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    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    Just got home from morning coaching session
    Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

    It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

    I would have blooded a youngster.

    Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside 🙂 )... others?

    Good question, There must be someone worth trying, If the answer is no NZ cricket is in major trouble going forward.
    Maybe my thinking of blooding a youngster is because I see so many options in the Australian system.
    I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    Just got home from morning coaching session
    Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

    It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

    I would have blooded a youngster.

    Good question, There must be someone worth trying, If the answer is no NZ cricket is in major trouble going forward.
    Maybe my think of blooding a youngster is because I see so many options in the Australian system.
    I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

    Yep, it's a bit like the batting. Henry Nicholls goes rarely questioned and overrated because the replacement options get very thin on the ground after Will Young. We need to import more South Africans...

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    wrote on last edited by KiwiMurph
    #90

    Brook is class.

    Dominating a poor attack here - interesting to see how he fares against world class bowling in The Ashes.

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    #91

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

    Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to nzzp on last edited by
    #92

    @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

    Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

    It seems the development pathways and high performance programs need a decent over haul.

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    replied to Chris on last edited by
    #93

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

    Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

    It seems the development pathways and high performance programs need a decent over haul.

    they have for some time.

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    nzzp
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    #94

    Brook playing some superb shots out there right now. If Williamson was taller, we may have ahd two more wickets.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    #95

    A pretty good ODI score on the cards here

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    replied to nzzp on last edited by Donsteppa
    #96

    @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

    Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

    It seems the development pathways and high performance programs need a decent over haul.

    they have for some time.

    It's really patchy. Overall it doesn't feel very systematic to me, despite some of the facilities now appearing at the back of Bay Oval and Hagley Oval.

    There are some good pockets and a few bright lights from the limited parts I get to see, but lots to work on - both mens and womens. Womens cricket in the Western Bay is all but non-existent if they get to the age of 18 and haven't already made the wider ND environment... which seems to show in both in the Brave and in the White Ferns this week...

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    Donsteppa
    wrote on last edited by
    #97

    Wags 11 overs, 1-70, no maidens and five no balls. He hasn't quite been the We Loves Wags bowler that TSF remembers fondly for a year or two now... the joys of Father Time.

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    bayimports
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    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

    Wags 11 overs, 1-70, no maidens and five no balls. He hasn't quite been the We Loves Wags bowler that TSF remembers fondly for a year or two now... the joys of Father Time.

    to be fair he didn't get to bowl a lot in the last couple of years due to selections..but looking ordinary today

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    LABCAT
    replied to Donsteppa on last edited by
    #99

    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    Just got home from morning coaching session
    Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

    It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

    I would have blooded a youngster.

    Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside 🙂 )... others?

    I would have picked:
    https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/zakary-foulkes-1202098

    First class record doesn't look much yet but watching him play he looks like he has the skills to be the next Souther/Boult

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #100

    must be hard to keep the over rate up when you spend your whole day picking the ball up from teh rope

    how they fuck have they still got 41 overs to bowl?

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    replied to Donsteppa on last edited by
    #101

    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

    Wags 11 overs, 1-70, no maidens and five no balls. He hasn't quite been the We Loves Wags bowler that TSF remembers fondly for a year or two now... the joys of Father Time.

    Wags says, 16 overs 3-82, have some fucking patience!!! 🙂

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by nzzp
    #102

    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:

    Wags says, 16 overs 3-82, have some fucking patience!!!

    4/82

    Edit: have some patience?

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  • L Offline
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    LABCAT
    wrote on last edited by
    #103

    So actually feels we are about even unless we have a bad evening tonight. Obviously England have guaranteed there will be a result as long as there is enough good weather.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #104

    lol i love this. Whack up 300+ and then declare with plenty of under-lights overs to bowl in.

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    Chris B.
    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #105

    @mariner4life said in Black Caps v England:

    lol i love this. Whack up 300+ and then declare with plenty of under-lights overs to bowl in.

    It's a bit like the olden days when people would declare on uncovered sticky wickets!

    Well, we've done better with the ball than I expected - lets hope our stronger suit can pay dividends and keep them at bay under the lights.

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    LABCAT
    wrote on last edited by
    #106

    Will be interesting to see how we approach batting, I'm guessing we'll be sticking to the 3 per over game plan.

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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #107

    Bugger off with patience... I'm claiming credit for the collapse after scuttling to the ground for the evening session to sort them out 😂

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