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  • KirwanK Offline
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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

    So, fans of the shitter franchises

    How do you feel that your so-called superstar players, all on big bucks, are playing dogshit?

    Happy to excuse their ineptitude because apparently they are only required to play well in September?

    Loving watching them are ya?

    Did you even see the Clarke + Akira try? I’ll take that for the ABs in a World Cup.

    I think your post should be in the GOM thread

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    @mariner4life Stick DMac in the Blues team. Would be very happy with that.

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

    @mariner4life Stick DMac in the Blues team. Would be very happy with that.

    How many ABs do you need to beat the most retched, soulless franchise in super rugby history?

    Should we also bring back Carlos?

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

    @mariner4life Stick DMac in the Blues team. Would be very happy with that.

    How many ABs do you need to beat the most retched, soulless franchise in super rugby history?

    Should we also bring back Carlos?

    Canes aren’t that bad.

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  • TimT Away
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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

    How many ABs do you need to beat the most retched, soulless franchise in super rugby history?

    Clearly we already have enough to flog the Highlanders.

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    replied to Kirwan on last edited by
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    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Tim said in All Blacks 2023:

    @mariner4life Stick DMac in the Blues team. Would be very happy with that.

    How many ABs do you need to beat the most retched, soulless franchise in super rugby history?

    Should we also bring back Carlos?

    Canes aren’t that bad.

    That's a solid burn

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    The best tight 5 has been the Highlanders
    They'll get 1 AB

    The best loose trio has been the Chiefs
    They'll get one AB

    The best inside backs have been the Chiefs, They'll be off the bench

    The best midfield has been the Blues, one will be in the ABs

    The best outside backs have been the Chiefs
    They'll probably get no players selected

    Of the ABs were a rep side talkback radio would go fucking off.

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    Let's just select this backline because we all know how playing players out of position works so wonderfully well at a WC.
    9. Smith
    10. DMac - a fullback playing 10
    11. SStevenson - a fullback playing wing
    12. JBarrett - a fullback playing 12
    13. RIoane - a wing playing centre
    14. WJordan - a fullback playing wing
    15. BBarrett - a first five playing fullback

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    replied to Canes4life on last edited by
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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:

    1. BBarrett - a first five playing fullback

    Pfftt.... Beauden isn't a first five.....

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    @mariner4life Don't forget that, at that this time last year, the Blues were unbeatable, but didn't go on to dominate the ABs either.

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    replied to Steve on last edited by
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    @Steve Im picking the current AB coaching setup will pick the senior incumbents. They need to pick on form.

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    @Tim yeah you only got 14 in AB's squad. Harsh.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:

    Let's just select this backline because we all know how playing players out of position works so wonderfully well at a WC.
    9. Smith
    10. DMac - a fullback playing 10
    11. SStevenson - a fullback playing wing
    12. JBarrett - a fullback playing 12
    13. RIoane - a wing playing centre
    14. WJordan - a fullback playing wing
    15. BBarrett - a first five playing fullback

    and we could top that by making all the loose forwards fill in at lock.
    Works so well for the Canes!

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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by Victor Meldrew
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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:

    And before the Cantab mafia come for me (cough, cough Stargazer), I'm leaning towards DMac, not BB.

    He also makes mistakes, but is a better tackler, has a longer kicking game and runs straight which is even more important at the higher level. RM's main attacking strategy of running sideways (or even backwards) until he finds a mismatch is completely useless when there isn't a mismatch.

    I like the idea of disrupting all the opposition plans on how to isolate RM by selecting DMac and either Sullivan or Stevenson at fullback. Be bold and go win the thing.

    ive come around to DMac as he seems to be running hot on form at the moment....but, has his game changed or something, i remember him being a huge proponent of the run across field and shovel a pass when he couldn't find a gap

    He's never been a greedy player or a glory-hunter and always as brave as fuck, but I've noticed he now often goes for the safer option rather than try to take on the world. Still happy to rip another side to shreds but way more mature in his decision-making. Hopefully will transfer to Test level.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:

    And before the Cantab mafia come for me (cough, cough Stargazer), I'm leaning towards DMac, not BB.

    He also makes mistakes, but is a better tackler, has a longer kicking game and runs straight which is even more important at the higher level. RM's main attacking strategy of running sideways (or even backwards) until he finds a mismatch is completely useless when there isn't a mismatch.

    I like the idea of disrupting all the opposition plans on how to isolate RM by selecting DMac and either Sullivan or Stevenson at fullback. Be bold and go win the thing.

    ive come around to DMac as he seems to be running hot on form at the moment....but, has his game changed or something, i remember him being a huge proponent of the run across field and shovel a pass when he couldn't find a gap

    He's never been a greedy player or a glory-hunter and always as brave as fuck, but I've noticed he now often goes for the safer option rather than try to take on the world. Still happy to rip another side to shreds but way more mature in his decision-making. Hopefully will transfer to Test level.

    I still reckon he's an excellent fullback. The dual playmaker idea worked with him and beaudy, but when he's was injured they tried it with mo'unga and Barrett, which didn't. Interesting article by nick bishop on rugby pass ages with me. Chiefs versus saders were most successful when DMac switched to the back

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    replied to ARHS on last edited by
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    @ARHS said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Nepia He has always been strong in getting over the ball and cover defends effectively a long way across field. Best in NZ maybe at that. Always thought those were standouts that offset front on defensive weakness.

    Pulling off the odd cover tackle doesn't invalidate the fact he had poor defence when first selected for the ABs.

    I don't know why you guys are going to the mattresses over that statement, you could just point out he worked on it and improved that area if you're that keen on fluffing him.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    replied to Machpants on last edited by
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    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2023:

    And before the Cantab mafia come for me (cough, cough Stargazer), I'm leaning towards DMac, not BB.

    He also makes mistakes, but is a better tackler, has a longer kicking game and runs straight which is even more important at the higher level. RM's main attacking strategy of running sideways (or even backwards) until he finds a mismatch is completely useless when there isn't a mismatch.

    I like the idea of disrupting all the opposition plans on how to isolate RM by selecting DMac and either Sullivan or Stevenson at fullback. Be bold and go win the thing.

    ive come around to DMac as he seems to be running hot on form at the moment....but, has his game changed or something, i remember him being a huge proponent of the run across field and shovel a pass when he couldn't find a gap

    He's never been a greedy player or a glory-hunter and always as brave as fuck, but I've noticed he now often goes for the safer option rather than try to take on the world. Still happy to rip another side to shreds but way more mature in his decision-making. Hopefully will transfer to Test level.

    I still reckon he's an excellent fullback. The dual playmaker idea worked with him and beaudy, but when he's was injured they tried it with mo'unga and Barrett, which didn't. Interesting article by nick bishop on rugby pass ages with me. Chiefs versus saders were most successful when DMac switched to the back

    He was really good at 15 on the EOYT - easily his best period in the Black jersey. You do wonder if being so versatile hasn't helped him settle into his best position.

    Maybe I'm a bit stuck in my ways, but I'm not convinced constantly buggering about with players positions, which seem to have become de rigeur since about 2016, really helps much.

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    https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/only-one-of-stevenson-or-narawa-has-a-shot-as-a-world-cup-bolter/ar-AA1aQBVn?ocid=hpmsn&pc=ACTE&cvid=e654ef1abc964b448b6477ed90c2a899&ei=26

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    replied to Canes4life on last edited by Victor Meldrew
    #726

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:

    Let's just select this backline because we all know how playing players out of position works so wonderfully well at a WC.
    9. Smith
    10. DMac - a fullback playing 10
    11. SStevenson - a fullback playing wing
    12. JBarrett - a fullback playing 12
    13. RIoane - a wing playing centre
    14. WJordan - a fullback playing wing
    15. BBarrett - a first five playing fullback

    But isn't that called "being bold" and "rolling the dice" ?

    Players like Will Jordan are just so good they can excel in different positions, but you have to question player development plans across the SR franchises and the ABs

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  • nostrildamusN Offline
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    replied to Victor Meldrew on last edited by nostrildamus
    #727

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2023:

    Let's just select this backline because we all know how playing players out of position works so wonderfully well at a WC.

    @Canes4life, arguable!

    1. Smith
    2. DMac - a fullback playing 10
    3. SStevenson - a fullback playing wing
    4. JBarrett - a fullback playing 12
    5. RIoane - a wing playing centre
    6. WJordan - a fullback playing wing
    7. BBarrett - a first five playing fullback

    But isn't that called "being bold" and "rolling the dice" ?

    Players like Will Jordan are just so good they can excel in different positions, but you have to question player development plans across the SR franchises and the ABs

    Yes I think this swapping around has been problematic esp in the midfield. And the loosies don't often seem balanced.

    Below to @Canes4life

    1. DMac - a fullback playing 10

    played twice for ABs as 10, wants to play there, played well there for NZ XV.

    1. SStevenson - a fullback playing wing

    The tried and tested grounding in process for ABs, Jordan, Ben Smith, and Cory Jane...I think Dagg started at 15 for ABs but was a good right wing there....FBs can make good wings!

    1. JBarrett - a fullback playing 12

    Prefers 12, played 12 previously

    1. RIoane - a wing playing centre

    Has played a lot at centre for ABs and Blues now..possibly most experienced current AB 13? (Possibly ALB or Goodhue are close).

    1. WJordan - a fullback playing wing

    see #11

    1. BBarrett - a first five playing fullback

    There is an argument he is a 15 trying to play 10...

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