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    Wait a minute.

    They asked for submissions to form the base of their evidence? And they got 4000.

    If 300k registered players in the UK. So around 1.3%.

    Athertons take is good. The experience of most is overwhelmingly positive. Why the fuck is that not in the headline.

    I’m so sick of the talk of diversity. If that makes me a bigot so be it.

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    Is this the place to air my grievance about the sudden need to call the Ashes thr "men's ashes"

    Get entirely fucked

    It's called the Ashes for a fucking reason you silly fluffybunnies. The women's ashes is not even a fucking thing

    It's the fucking ashes
    Fuck off

    (Also It's batsman)

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    My nephew was playing in the Surrey schools U14s final today

    My brother sent this5F66AA5F-BD4C-4327-8297-ECD69A583502.jpeg

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    Alternative take

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    @MiketheSnow said in English Cricket - Damning Report:

    Alternative take

    100% absolutely spot on.

    Spectator take equally as scathing but for different reasons:

    Niall Gooch  /  Jun 27, 2023  /  Society

    Does cricket suffer from ‘institutional racism’?

    Does cricket suffer from ‘institutional racism’?

    What a strange document the Independent Commission on Equity in Cricket (ICEC) has produced, in its ‘Holding up a mirror to cricket’ report. Rambling, explicitly political, antagonistic and poorly-argued, it ignores some obvious explanations for the ills it discusses, and fixates on irrelevancies....

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    @MiketheSnow

    Thinking about this and reflecting on things like the campaign to scrap the "Elitist" Eton v Harrow game.

    Good mate of mine is an MCC member. I've been to Lords many times, had lunch there more than once and given the chance to put my name on the waiting list for membership as a member of the public. There was something like a 20 year waiting list on that route. But if you play for one of the many MCC teams who tour schools, are a village cricket stalwart or are a groundsman somewhere, your chances are pretty good to almost automatic.

    I doubt there's a more diverse and representative group of people in any private club in the UK. You'll find people like Tim Rice next to a council gardener and Mohamed from Leicester chatting to an ex-PM. There're rules you need to stick to, but a passion for the game is what unites them - "diversity" or "elitism" doesn't come into it.

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    @MajorRage said in English Cricket - Damning Report:

    @MiketheSnow said in English Cricket - Damning Report:

    Alternative take

    100% absolutely spot on.

    Spectator take equally as scathing but for different reasons:

    Niall Gooch  /  Jun 27, 2023  /  Society

    Does cricket suffer from ‘institutional racism’?

    Does cricket suffer from ‘institutional racism’?

    What a strange document the Independent Commission on Equity in Cricket (ICEC) has produced, in its ‘Holding up a mirror to cricket’ report. Rambling, explicitly political, antagonistic and poorly-argued, it ignores some obvious explanations for the ills it discusses, and fixates on irrelevancies....

    Great article

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in English Cricket - Damning Report:

    @MiketheSnow

    Thinking about this and reflecting on things like the campaign to scrap the "Elitist" Eton v Harrow game.

    Good mate of mine is an MCC member. I've been to Lords many times, had lunch there more than once and given the chance to put my name on the waiting list for membership as a member of the public. There was something like a 20 year waiting list on that route. But if you play for one of the many MCC teams who tour schools, are a village cricket stalwart or are a groundsman somewhere, your chances are pretty good to almost automatic.

    I doubt there's a more diverse and representative group of people in any private club in the UK. You'll find people like Tim Rice next to a council gardener and Mohamed from Leicester chatting to an ex-PM. There're rules you need to stick to, but a passion for the game is what unites them - "diversity" or "elitism" doesn't come into it.

    100%

    I often wonder whether the people compiling these 'independent reports' have ever played the game and/or like the game

    Did they fail to play for England because of perceived elitism or racism or is it that they simply weren't good enough?

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    @MiketheSnow looked into this, and it turns out one of the panel members I was at uni with, Zafar Ansari. He did play for England then retired at 25(!) to become a barrister. While I still don't agree with the report's findings, I'd say he's a pretty appropriate person to be on the panel.

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    @TeWaio said in English Cricket - Damning Report:

    @MiketheSnow looked into this, and it turns out one of the panel members I was at uni with, Zafar Ansari. He did play for England then retired at 25(!) to become a barrister. While I still don't agree with the report's findings, I'd say he's a pretty appropriate person to be on the panel.

    That's great

    More of that please

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    Listening to Mel Jones - UK-born, Black, who's played for Australia - commentating from Lord's for Sky.

    Oh, the irony.

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    Isa Guha is one of the most respected cricket commentators anywhere in the world right now

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    Really? She’s ok but not amazing.

    I find Ponting the best of the current ones.

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    Ponting is the best analysis man. And is fucking excellent at putting people in their place (my esteem for Ponting continues to climb)

    Isa fills the job of main caller and is great

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    @mariner4life agree to disagree on Isa.

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