Steve Hansen extends contract
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<p>While this is great news, I do hope they have a two year plan to bring Rennie into the line up - he can spend the next two years making some coin in Europe/Japan and then come straight back to push Fozzie from next in line in the assistants. </p>
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<p>On that topic, some interesting comments by Tew today:</p>
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<p>"We've kept the guys that we consider worthy of being on that list fully informed," Tew said, after announcing that <strike>Tew</strike> Hansen was extending his present deal by two years.</p>
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<p>"They know what's going on and we, particularly through Don Tricker our high performance guy, spend a lot of time talking to the coaches, both here and overseas, and we're in constant contact with them.</p>
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<p><strong>"I think probably the best option will be [that] whoever takes over in 2020 is at the World Cup in 2019, in one capacity or another. But we'll work through that with the board, and Steve will have an input into that, in terms of how we plan for it."</strong></p>
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<p>So we wait for 2019 to see. If coaches head overseas then we can assume they aren't in the running.</p> -
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<p>I may be rewriting history here, but didn't the improvement come when the coaches were shuffled?</p>
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<p>Remember when Henry "shook things up" and switched the roles between the three of them. It was thereafter I thought things started to change in the forwards (when Smith took those reins)?</p>
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<p>Henry took forwards, Hansen backs, Smith defence.</p>
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<p>Personally I think it had less to do with the switch and more the personnel - we debuted Whitelock, Thorn stepped it up a gear and Williams managed to stay healthy.</p> -
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<p>On that topic, some interesting comments by Tew today:</p>
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<p>So we wait for 2019 to see. If coaches head overseas then we can assume they aren't in the running.</p>
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<p>depends, might be with another team at the RWC....</p> -
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<p>He's certainly not held in high regard on the international rugby podcasts I listen to. Understandable seeings as I very rarely like other international coaches who aren't shy of having a dig either.</p>
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<p><strong>I think the consensus overseas is that a donkey could coach the All Blacks to a World Cup and he doesn't deserve the plaudits he gets.</strong> I strongly disagree. The All Blacks head coach needs to create an environment that the best players in the world crave being a part of, and will spurn significant cash offers while pursuing it. You've also got to manage selections so the next tier and the recently dropped don't fly the coup when they also get large offers to play overseas too.</p>
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<p>Finally, maintaining consistency of performance and a culture of constant improvement when you head into most games as an unbackable favourite is very tough. A lot of teams know they have to play the game of their life to beat the All Blacks, which is the challenge for them. However, equally challenging is the knowledge that you <em>don't</em> have to play the game of your life to beat the opposition, and yet somehow not get complacent.</p>
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<p>Absolutely. The Irish circle jerk about Joe Schmidt like young lads from St Andrew's college would if their English teacher was a former Penthouse Pet.</p>
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<p>Even by AB standards in the professional era, his record is so far stunning. I guess some NH people think back to his tenure with Wales. He also has a dry sense of humour that probably doesn't endear him to international journalists.</p>
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<p>Just look at Laurie Mains and his <70% win-rate (OK pre-pro era) for how a poorish coach/selector can bring the ABs back to the field.</p> -
<p>Laurie Mains' 95-97 team is one of the best sides i have ever seen. Seems like he did an alright job then, both selecting and coaching. Unless a donkey could have selected that team and coached it...</p>
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<p>Laurie Mains' 95-97 team is one of the best sides i have ever seen. Seems like he did an alright job then, both selecting and coaching. Unless a donkey could have selected that team and coached it...</p>
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<p>Laurie Mains' 95-97 team is one of the best sides i have ever seen. Seems like he did an alright job then, both selecting and coaching. <strong>Unless a donkey could have selected that team and coached it...</strong></p>
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Laurie Mains' 95-97 team is one of the best sides i have ever seen. Seems like he did an alright job then, both selecting and coaching. Unless a donkey could have selected that team and coached it...</p></blockquote>
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<p>ok i am so fucking lost</p>
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<p>wait, got it. wow. how fucking retarded from me. jesus.</p>
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<p>ok i am so fucking lost</p>
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<p>wait, got it. wow. how fucking retarded from me. jesus.</p>
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<p>Easy mistake to make to be fair.</p>
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<p>Here's a photo of Laurie Mains for future reference.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj1x_P2hY7OAhVDFZQKHf9aCTkQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmegomuseum.com%2Fcommunity%2Fshowthread.php%3F76147-Puppet-Making-Thunderbirds-Parker&psig=AFQjCNEV9Ft1qi0cSsE4ce4B8ujICvdPog&ust=1469516508984339'><img height="393" src="http://i.imgur.com/oKZzQ.jpg" width="271" alt="oKZzQ.jpg"></a></p> -
<p>Best news I have had this year, couldn't they have made it 2029 instead.</p>
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<p>Think I am going to more distraught when he finishes up than when Richie and DC called it a day. </p> -
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<p>I'm not sure what the issue is here, M4L is correct - that really was Mains' team that Hart took over and had initial success with ....</p>
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<p>(He even had Cullen on standby for the French tour).</p>
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<p>By that dubious logic it's not Hansen's team, it's Henry's......</p> -
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<p>By that dubious logic it's not Hansen's team, it's Henry's......</p>
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<p>And Mains team was Grizz's</p>
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<p>The bits of it that worked 92-94 certainly were (Brooke, Fitzy, Jones, Fox, Little, Timu, Jones, Loe)</p>
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<p>Mains was an outstanding coach, but a terrible selector. So many terrible players got randomly capped under him, then discarded. Guys got played out of position, good players got axed for no reason, he was awful. Once he got the right team, seemingly via a random selection luck methods he coached them wonderfully, but jeez he should never have been selecting.</p>
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<p>Greg Cooper is a great 15 & Matt is a great 13! Timu is a wing! Little at 10! Whoops, Gregs shithouse! Matts a 15! Nope Matts a 12! Is Foxy still around cause Little is very much not a 10. Timu's a fullback! Eric Rush is a wing! Nope Eric Rush can fuck off! Marc Ellis is a wing! Nope a 10!!! <em>Hell</em> nope, maybe a 13? Whats Blair Larsen? Could he be a wing?</p>
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<p>The Hansen era is almost a polar opposite, very few pig average blokes called up on a hunch, guys played in position, caps very hard to come by etc. </p> -
Great news, Hansen is the best coach at the moment in any sport for me. His record in terms of trophies, the style his team plays in and the manner they conduct themselves off the park have been outstanding<br><br>
The critics if they don't rate him, they don't know shit. Hansen manages to keep superb sportsmen with their feet on the ground and gives them huge confidence and gets them working as a united team year after year. Tactically he seems a step or two ahead of the more fashionable coaches most of the time too. No small achievement and it speaks volumes for Hansen's vision, intellect, determination, willingness to learn and integrity. -
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="600155" data-time="1469442128"><p>Great news, Hansen is the best coach at the moment in any sport for me. His record in terms of trophies, the style his team plays in and the manner they conduct themselves off the park have been outstanding<br><br>
The critics if they don't rate him, they don't know shit. Hansen manages to keep superb sportsmen with their feet on the ground and gives them huge confidence and gets them working as a united team year after year. Tactically he seems a step or two ahead of the more fashionable coaches most of the time too. No small achievement and it speaks volumes for Hansen's vision, intellect, determination, willingness to learn and integrity.</p></blockquote>
Although many of your posts over-egg all things ABs, this post is spot on. Hansen is setting the standard as a coach/manager across all sports. There's a word for people that don't rate him, and it starts with E. -
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<p>I'm not sure what the issue is here, M4L is correct - that really was Mains' team that Hart took over and had initial success with ....</p>
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<p>As gollum said, 1992-94 was painful at times, mainly due to poor selections. And he didn't even mention the selection fuck-ups at halfback where Bachop was replaced by Strachan, Preston and finally Forster before bingo let's pick Bachop again in 1994.</p>
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<p>I think that because of the 1995 RWC Mains' tenure is looked on more favourably than it should be. The ABs might have played the best at that tournament but then proceeded to lose to France later in the year.</p> -
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<p>fuck-ups at halfback where Bachop was replaced by Strachan, Preston and finally Forster before bingo let's pick Bachop again in 1994.</p>
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<p>Oh god I'd forgotten 9.</p>
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<p>Jeysus he was an abomination as a selector.</p> -
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<p>Although many of your posts over-egg all things ABs, this post is spot on. Hansen is setting the standard as a coach/manager across all sports. There's a word for people that don't rate him, and it starts with E.</p>
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<p>Ediot?</p>
