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    bayimports
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    @KiwiMurph credit where it is due, great work Auckland rugby still calling out that BS tweet

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    You know when we had best provincial comp??
    When we has 3 divisions.
    I think some boffins who are much clever than me can mybe come up with a system, 3rd div amateur, 2nd div a bit of money and then proper semi pro top div?
    I know it will lead to players moving (as it did pre pro days anyway) , but just a thought. I was on a provincial board in those days (of a 3rd div union) and there was pretty good interet, we only playing teams of own strength etc, and it worked! I know we will have cries of how will we get promotion/relegation, and I don't have all answers. but one thing would be to show finacials as well as playing ability to get promotion?
    Just a thought fellas, so just call me an idiot quietly huh??
    I will add I love NPC, but understand the problems etc. And we can't lose it or really end up with too short of a season, as NZ generally needs club rugby played when it is.

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    Anyone got access to today's newsletter from Dylan Cleaver?

    Dylan Cleaver

    Three questions with an NPC chief

    Three questions with an NPC chief

    Plus, we go Stateside as Sho-time in La La Land approaches to a sad end ($)

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    It's very affordable - I think it's something like 10 bucks for a year?

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    @Mr-Fish USD50/year.

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    Ah yes, well I didn't say which currency I was talking about...

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    Bovidae
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    A good read.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/132752302/scariest-moment-of-my-life-all-black-angus-taavao-opens-up-on-spinal-injury

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/opinion/300953153/most-provinces-cant-afford-a-milliondollar-salary-cap

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    funny thing i know club teams whos budget is $500000 and most at least $180000

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    The NZ Herald posted a report from the Auckland/Harbour game. They pointed out that they don't post about the NPC, because no one reads it.

    So, that's another data point to ignore while the NPC closes in upon extinction.

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    Kiwiwomble
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    @ploughboy said in NPC 2023:

    funny thing i know club teams whos budget is $500000 and most at least $180000

    WTF really? in melbourne we get about 30-35k in subs, main sponsor is 10k, shoulder is 5k and then training tops are a couple each, so say another 25k in sponsors, so a generous 60k a year...thats why we cant afford to build clubrooms

    can you say which club?

    @Tim said in NPC 2023:

    The NZ Herald posted a report from the Auckland/Harbour game. They pointed out that they don't post about the NPC, because no one reads it.

    So, that's another data point to ignore while the NPC closes in upon extinction.

    its a chicken and egg deal at the moment, we can just as easily say people arent interested because no one (NZR, PU, Media) are doing a good job hyping it....we might have to use some of the silverlake money to get people interested in it again...have to spend money to make money etc

    interesting, they talk of a 1.1m cap, i say a thing in the net yesterday with a news report from 2006 about the NPC...im sure it said they wanted a cap of 2M then...suggesting teams were paying more than that back then, a huge drop

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    @Tim said in NPC 2023:

    They pointed out that they don't post about the NPC, because no one reads it.

    Part of that may be due to their pay-wall.

    And the NZH rugby reporting isn't that great anyway.

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    @Stargazer

    They'll be comparing clicks relative other articles on the site.

    Anyway here's the line mentioning why the paper doesn't cover NPC scores anymore (this story wasn't really discussing the match, it was more about the decline of the comp)

    The score — in case anyone is wondering, since an absence of reader interest means they’re no longer reported on this site — was 43-21

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    @ploughboy said in NPC 2023:

    funny thing i know club teams whos budget is $500000 and most at least $180000

    budget isn't the same as salary though - presumably those clubs aren't paying their players.

    500k is a lot!

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    Bovidae
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    Based on what I was told some club players get paid a sum comparable to NPC contracts. It might be the same club @ploughboy is talking about. 🙂

    Like the SR salary cap, the NPC salary cap is largely meaningless if you are just topping up player's SR contracts. That becomes more of an issue with the "haves" and "have nots" where the quality of the players you have in your squad is even wider between say, an Auckland and a Southland.

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    @Bovidae said in NPC 2023:

    Like the SR salary cap, the NPC salary cap is largely meaningless if you are just topping up player's SR contracts. That becomes more of an issue with the "haves" and "have nots" where the quality of the players you have in your squad is even wider between say, an Auckland and a Southland.

    Which creates other problems too. Auckland had ~27 SR players, plus a couple of NZ u20's they wanted in the squad.. leaving almost no room for selections from club form

    I think the Cantabs might be even worse ~30 SR players?

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    taniwharugby
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    @Duluth and then any ABs on the books are likely paid minimal and NZR pay it anyway, and then they don't often run in thier provincial colours anyway.

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    i know i said budget but this is what i was told clubs are spending on there top team and does not include any other teams they have. . i know of at least two clubs where every player gets paid for each appearance. the person who told me lead me to believe that all clubs in this comp are paying players and this was the amounts they were spending.
    @Bovidae im sure we will be talking about the same club and im sure you can guess the other.

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    Kiwiwomble
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    #543

    i love this stuff and remember saying last year they should do more of this kind of thing

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