RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland
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@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@frugby a bit of confidence can do amazing things.
Can't turn Wales into world-beaters though. I think they are unlikely to pick up their first ever win over the ABs in the Semis, and if Ireland get through, they will have the bit between their teeth.
With Cheika at the helm, Argentina are always a wildcard, but they've been rubbish this year really. I think Wales, Argentina, Fiji and England have all built their respective hype levels via the fact by far and away the four best sides on the world are on a crash course for each other. If one of those four sneaks through the back door it'll be England, but they've hardly been convincing, and will shoot themselves in the foot by shoehorning in Farrell at 12.
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TAB pricing also reflects the knowledge that a large proportion of their Kiwi customers bet with their "hearts rather than heads". The ABs are almost always under the odds.
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@bayimports said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I wouldn’t pick one Irish player in a combined NZ/Ireland Father Ted’s XV….
TBF you wouldn’t pick anyone outside of Canterbury at any time 😁
I’m open to the odd token.
Well if it all goes belly up this week, we can all get onboard the Santner bandwagon and bring home the CWC
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@voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Here you go
Ireland reveal full extent of injuries ahead of New Zealand showdown
Lock James Ryan will see a specialist about his wrist injury.
None ruled out at this stage but Ryan and Hansen probably look the least likely
They can get the fuck out with this shit. Getting their excuses in early, trying to steal our underdog status.
We’ve sacrificed a great deal for the underdog tag, be damned if they’re taking it off us now.
Ireland are the underdogs in the RWC. Never been past the quarters. Failed 117 times. In contrast, NZ perennial winners, always in the knockouts, best in the world, Beauden Barrett, Richie McCoy aka Sam Cane, Best coach in the world, NZ thoroughbreds vs Irish mongrels, etc, etc.
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@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
4 things to consider:
- Ireland have never got past qtr final stage
- only 2 teams have ever recorded 18 wins in a row in the history of rugby.
- Ireland have never beaten NZ at a World Cup before
- Their former coach is now an AB coach plotting against them.
So if we lose and Ireland overcome those 4 things we retitle the Fozzie’s firsts thread to Fozzie’s Quadrella’s
I’ve been lurking on this site for 20 years and I haven’t seen this level of anxiousness before. Although when one bright spark posted that we were at peak oil it had a few nerves going…
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
4 things to consider:
- Ireland have never got past qtr final stage
- only 2 teams have ever recorded 18 wins in a row in the history of rugby.
- Ireland have never beaten NZ at a World Cup before
- Their former coach is now an AB coach plotting against them.
So if we lose and Ireland overcome those 4 things we retitle the Fozzie’s firsts thread to Fozzie’s Quadrella’s
I’ve been lurking on this site for 20 years and I haven’t seen this level of anxiousness before. Although when one bright spark posted that we were at peak oil it had a few nerves going…
- The point of the match
- If two have done it, why not three - same as 1 really. Too early anyway, Getting the record would be more interesting.
- See point 1. Plus they'd never won in NZ before.
- Look how that turned out in 2019....
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@Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Here you go
Ireland reveal full extent of injuries ahead of New Zealand showdown
Lock James Ryan will see a specialist about his wrist injury.
None ruled out at this stage but Ryan and Hansen probably look the least likely
They can get the fuck out with this shit. Getting their excuses in early, trying to steal our underdog status.
We’ve sacrificed a great deal for the underdog tag, be damned if they’re taking it off us now.
Ireland are the underdogs in the RWC. Never been past the quarters. Failed 117 times. In contrast, NZ perennial winners, always in the knockouts, best in the world, Beauden Barrett, Richie McCoy aka Sam Cane, Best coach in the world, NZ thoroughbreds vs Irish mongrels, etc, etc.
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@bayimports said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I wouldn’t pick one Irish player in a combined NZ/Ireland Father Ted’s XV….
TBF you wouldn’t pick anyone outside of Canterbury at any time 😁
I’m open to the odd token.
Well if it all goes belly up this week, we can all get onboard the Santner bandwagon and bring home the CWC
All you need is for Ireland do a late late call up of Jaeger this week, no token will be needed.
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@Nepia said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@bayimports said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
I wouldn’t pick one Irish player in a combined NZ/Ireland Father Ted’s XV….
TBF you wouldn’t pick anyone outside of Canterbury at any time 😁
I’m open to the odd token.
Well if it all goes belly up this week, we can all get onboard the Santner bandwagon and bring home the CWC
All you need is for Ireland do a late late call up of Jaeger this week, no token will be needed.
He's staying put apparently. He's had 3 overtures and turned them down.
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@voodoo said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Here you go
Ireland reveal full extent of injuries ahead of New Zealand showdown
Lock James Ryan will see a specialist about his wrist injury.
None ruled out at this stage but Ryan and Hansen probably look the least likely
They can get the fuck out with this shit. Getting their excuses in early, trying to steal our underdog status.
We’ve sacrificed a great deal for the underdog tag, be damned if they’re taking it off us now.
Ireland are the underdogs in the RWC. Never been past the quarters. Failed 117 times. In contrast, NZ perennial winners, always in the knockouts, best in the world, Beauden Barrett, Richie McCoy aka Sam Cane, Best coach in the world, NZ thoroughbreds vs Irish mongrels, etc, etc.
That is some real shenanigans, right there!Really? I don't know what you're talking about. NZ are revered in this country - the game this weekend is regarded as the pinnacle of every players' career. Each player knows when they face greatness - it's an honour only rarely bestowed. Ireland, I'm sure will do their best, not to disgrace such a game and give it their best shot.
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@Derm-McCrum I heard both teams get participation certificates after as well, thats pretty cool.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Machpants not sure TAB odds setting for the ABs are a true gauge...
So the only game we were underdogs and won was SA last year?
Doesn't surprise me, we’re usually the overdogs
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@Machpants said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Machpants so they had us as faves for the test we won in SA last year?
Kinda proves my point about the TAB and thier odds setting?
Oh correct tab always over rate the abs. Like now, no way we should be paying 2$, 4$ would be more accurate. But the of times when they say abs are going lose, like the quarters, they're right
Not overrated. Just set different odds as idiots like us bet with our hearts, and they need to adjust their odds. It's not a function of how the TAB rate the team's chances.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Ok, not desperate then. Highly motivated to prove that they are a better side after being written off all week.
If they can't get up for this one... How many times have we said this about the Fozz blacks only to see them falter? I dare them to prove us wrong 🙏
Would be Foster era in a nutshell if we spank Ireland then lose to Wales.
If the ABs get past Ireland ( massive IF there ) I really don’t see Wales or Argentina putting up enough fight to stop them getting into the final.
Your mob were saying the same about England last go round
Which mob? Pretty sure we all saw that as 50/50 at best.
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This reads weird; hundreds of posts of All Black fans trying to convince themselves they could win a quarter final.
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@antipodean said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
This reads weird; hundreds of posts of All Black fans trying to convince themselves they could win a quarter final.
Abs could win, totally. Will we? No
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@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Honestly I think DMAC should be fullback.
I don’t mind the occasional chip kick. As long as it is used sparingly as part of a varied attach to keep Ireland on the back foot and guessing what we will come up with next.
If we see to many it is because we are running out of ideas asnd he simply cannot help himself from doing them as this is his only way he can make something happen.
OR Ireland see kicking the ball to BB as a good idea.. as 9/10 times he will put us under further pressure..
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@MN5 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@DaGrubster said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
Ok, not desperate then. Highly motivated to prove that they are a better side after being written off all week.
If they can't get up for this one... How many times have we said this about the Fozz blacks only to see them falter? I dare them to prove us wrong 🙏
Would be Foster era in a nutshell if we spank Ireland then lose to Wales.
If the ABs get past Ireland ( massive IF there ) I really don’t see Wales or Argentina putting up enough fight to stop them getting into the final.
Now if they were playing us in NZ...... 🙄
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@Mattasaurus yes it will be interesting to see if there has been any foxing by Fozzie (evidence says no) as you really do question some of the tactics so maybe they have been playing that way, inviting Ireland to play to this, only for us to actually have a plan.
Problem is, Ireland are the smartest team going around at the moment, I expect them to be able to adapt to anything we throw at them, although if we get a couple of scores up fairly early, that will test the strength of thier wheels given the historical pressure of the RWC sitting on them.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:
@Mattasaurus yes it will be interesting to see if there has been any foxing by Fozzie (evidence says no) as you really do question some of the tactics so maybe they have been playing that way, inviting Ireland to play to this, only for us to actually have a plan.
Problem is, Ireland are the smartest team going around at the moment, I expect them to be able to adapt to anything we throw at them, although if we get a couple of scores up fairly early, that will test the strength of thier wheels given the historical pressure of the RWC sitting on them.
I just want us to stop beating ourselves. Force them to outplay us
