The Current State of Rugby
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the problem, smuts my dear boy, is that coaches are smarter than administrators, and they don't give a fuck about you. They want/are paid to win. And you win at rugby by bending rules, or flat our breaking them in a way that the ref can't penalise.
If these changes are brought in, some coach has already worked out how to exploit them for their own benefit, and a new set of whinges will come in.
Coaches want control, players and fans want chaos. This mythical game of contests you are describing died in 1992 (probably when we let the bloody saffers back TBH) and now the game is about control. And about milking the system to win. That's pro sport baby.
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@Smuts said in The Current State of Rugby:
But we’re going to do that with every/any set of rules.
I’d rather they did it with rules that were fun to play under.
I am sort of the last one to talk then
I cheated my ass off, and did a few pretty dirty things
Had fun though
(Do those rules we played under include being able to hit fluffybunnies in the head and smash rucks for minimal penalty?)
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I never did. Or at least, refs hardly ever penalized me for intentionally breaking the rules. Since I never intentionally followed them and since refs are sole judges of law and fact, I can’t have been cheating. And saying otherwise just shows you don’t respect those stupid, blind fluffybunnies as much as me.
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Five cards and counting in the one and half games I have watched today. There has got to be a better way. Who wants to watch games like these?
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@Crazy-Horse said in The Current State of Rugby:
Five cards and counting in the one and half games I have watched today. There has got to be a better way. Who wants to watch games like these?
Fans are baying for them now as well. Sad to see.
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@Crazy-Horse said in The Current State of Rugby:
Five cards and counting in the one and half games I have watched today. There has got to be a better way. Who wants to watch games like these?
I'm still watching
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I just don't understand the point of yellow cards. They don't work as a deterrent because every year there are more and more of them. If they are meant as a punishment for cynical play, why? A penalty is already a huge benefit - especially when penalty advantages seem almost endless. If teams receiving countless penalties and advantages aren't good enough to score, I don't think they should have another benefit. Often a yellow card is given to a team when the other team is too shit to score.
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@Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crazy-Horse said in The Current State of Rugby:
Five cards and counting in the one and half games I have watched today. There has got to be a better way. Who wants to watch games like these?
I'm still watching
Yeah so am I 😀 but it's pissing me off more each time
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What about a seven point penalty in what would be a yellow card situation? Teams give away penalties to stop tries being scored so why not punish them the same as a try?
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@Crazy-Horse I like the idea of more penalty tries without cards.
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@Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crazy-Horse said in The Current State of Rugby:
Five cards and counting in the one and half games I have watched today. There has got to be a better way. Who wants to watch games like these?
I'm still watching
I've really cut back my watching and attending games
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@nzzp said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crazy-Horse said in The Current State of Rugby:
Five cards and counting in the one and half games I have watched today. There has got to be a better way. Who wants to watch games like these?
I'm still watching
I've really cut back my watching and attending games
I've played more this season than any other season in the last half a decade so must be a sucker
Edit: didn't think I was going to have much success adjusting to the new tackle/dip laws but it's been fine.
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Seventeen dead minutes: Why World Rugby had to act after Cup final
The 2011 Rugby World Cup final was by no means a classic. But comparing it to last year’s showpiece event proves that rule changes have turned rugby into a waiting game.
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@Tim said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crazy-Horse I like the idea of more penalty tries without cards.
Yeah I like that idea as well.
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@Crazy-Horse said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Tim said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crazy-Horse I like the idea of more penalty tries without cards.
Yeah I like that idea as well.
Been saying that for yonks
Score = no card
Deliberately stop scoring = cardSame with scrums
Penalty first
Penalty and ten yards possession if outside the 22
Penalty try if stops scoring
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@Tim said in The Current State of Rugby:
The 2011 Rugby World Cup final was by no means a classic. But comparing it to last year’s showpiece event proves that rule changes have turned rugby into a waiting game.
Can you get past paywall?
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@Machpants Try archive.ph
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@Tim said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Machpants Try archive.ph
Very true that article esp ball in play does not equal better game
