The Current State of Rugby
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Five cards and counting in the one and half games I have watched today. There has got to be a better way. Who wants to watch games like these?
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@Crazy-Horse said in The Current State of Rugby:
Five cards and counting in the one and half games I have watched today. There has got to be a better way. Who wants to watch games like these?
Fans are baying for them now as well. Sad to see.
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@Crazy-Horse said in The Current State of Rugby:
Five cards and counting in the one and half games I have watched today. There has got to be a better way. Who wants to watch games like these?
I'm still watching
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I just don't understand the point of yellow cards. They don't work as a deterrent because every year there are more and more of them. If they are meant as a punishment for cynical play, why? A penalty is already a huge benefit - especially when penalty advantages seem almost endless. If teams receiving countless penalties and advantages aren't good enough to score, I don't think they should have another benefit. Often a yellow card is given to a team when the other team is too shit to score.
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@Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crazy-Horse said in The Current State of Rugby:
Five cards and counting in the one and half games I have watched today. There has got to be a better way. Who wants to watch games like these?
I'm still watching
Yeah so am I 😀 but it's pissing me off more each time
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What about a seven point penalty in what would be a yellow card situation? Teams give away penalties to stop tries being scored so why not punish them the same as a try?
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@Crazy-Horse I like the idea of more penalty tries without cards.
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@Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crazy-Horse said in The Current State of Rugby:
Five cards and counting in the one and half games I have watched today. There has got to be a better way. Who wants to watch games like these?
I'm still watching
I've really cut back my watching and attending games
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@nzzp said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crazy-Horse said in The Current State of Rugby:
Five cards and counting in the one and half games I have watched today. There has got to be a better way. Who wants to watch games like these?
I'm still watching
I've really cut back my watching and attending games
I've played more this season than any other season in the last half a decade so must be a sucker
Edit: didn't think I was going to have much success adjusting to the new tackle/dip laws but it's been fine.
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Seventeen dead minutes: Why World Rugby had to act after Cup final
The 2011 Rugby World Cup final was by no means a classic. But comparing it to last year’s showpiece event proves that rule changes have turned rugby into a waiting game.
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@Tim said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crazy-Horse I like the idea of more penalty tries without cards.
Yeah I like that idea as well.
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@Crazy-Horse said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Tim said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crazy-Horse I like the idea of more penalty tries without cards.
Yeah I like that idea as well.
Been saying that for yonks
Score = no card
Deliberately stop scoring = cardSame with scrums
Penalty first
Penalty and ten yards possession if outside the 22
Penalty try if stops scoring
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@Tim said in The Current State of Rugby:
The 2011 Rugby World Cup final was by no means a classic. But comparing it to last year’s showpiece event proves that rule changes have turned rugby into a waiting game.
Can you get past paywall?
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@Machpants Try archive.ph
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@Tim said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Machpants Try archive.ph
Very true that article esp ball in play does not equal better game
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@Dodge said in The Current State of Rugby:
@antipodean said in The Current State of Rugby:
@canefan said in The Current State of Rugby:
I'll wait to see if they actually try to eliminate fake stoppages. That is one of my major gripes. If you fix the intentional slowing of the game, the bench/subs problems will probably go too, because loading the bench with forwards carries risk that they can't handle a faster game. But if they want to change that too, great
An easy way to eliminate fake stoppages is to simply not stop the game for someone who needs a breather or to tie up his boot again. Can't form a scrum because a prop has taken a knee? Take a quick tap or free kick to the other side.
I understand and don't disagree with the sentiment, however, you're ignoring how cynical rugby is these days - have a terrible scrum? Then concede a free kick by taking the knee.
I agree with speeding the game up but if scrums take too long to set then free kick once, penalty next IMO.
Just because I can ...
... a simple amendment, if we're insistent on retaining free kicks ... allow fks to go direct to touch (and award the lineout where it crosses touch @Bones ).Would save a whole heap of reset scrums:
- on D : get to clear
- in midfield: force a defensive lineout.
I see so many contrived options, but this seems so simple and easy to implement.
I mean, what is the advantage of getting a free kick nowadays?
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Devlin and his offsider making veiled reference to some external factor influencing Reece's decision to leave on their show yesterday. Any clues?
Did Devlin take his tongue out from licking the arse of the NRL for a few minutes to discuss Reece?
Fair call. One for the GOM or State of the Game thread perhaps.
This is one that annoys me, and as I said above I'd take it to the State of the Game thread, and here we are.
(In searching this topic I see @mariner4life likes to start these threads ... think we might need to combine a couple of the older ones with this one ... ).
Anyway.
I get pissed off with the disinformation about how boring rugby is.
I watch an awesome weekend of Super Rugby, and all I hear is how awful it is.
It pisses me off that rugby journalists can't find the good things to talk about.
Perhaps this is ever so slightly less prevalent this year but ...
.. the latest bullshit doing the rounds, mainly because the Warriors lost the other week to a bloke dotting in the corner because the corner flag "isn't there" is how awesomely wonderful and innovative loigue is because corner flag awesomeness and rugby followed. (Devlin being a big proponent of that misinformation - hence this rant and early reference.)
I always knew that rugby introduced the removal of the corner flag first, but never bothered to Google it.
But something came up in commentary over the weekend and it pissed me off (think it was McTainsh). Something about wingers getting ideas from the loiguies.
So I went to Google.
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Rugby changed the corner flag rule when the ELVs were introduced in 2008, after the 2006 Stellenbosch trials (sounds like some sort of war crime tribunal
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Australian rugby league brought it in as a mid-season knee jerk in 2010.
My point?
Let's celebrate what's good about our game. It's kind of a cultural cringe.
To my mind the only thing about the game that needs improving is the after the whistle stoppages.
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@Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Crazy-Horse said in The Current State of Rugby:
Five cards and counting in the one and half games I have watched today. There has got to be a better way. Who wants to watch games like these?
I'm still watching
Yeah, yeah, yeah…
I’m still watching ….
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@booboo I've been a Warriors tragic for years, love the Warriors (have hate watched them at times), don't really care about the NRL outside of the Warriors too much though.
But the hype around them gets on my nerves, where the fuck were all the train hanger ons when the Warriors were rubbish for a decade?
Hmmm, this could easily go in the Grumpy Old Man thread too.
Most games of rugby have been really good this year, well except for the live one I went (Blues v Tahs) which was awful.
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