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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    #1221

    The Reds at $26 is a fucking decent shout actually.

    Chiefs Kryptonite (shit we lost to them in Super TT that year in Townsville. FUCK Townsville). Have beaten us home and away.
    Then probably the Hurricanes, who needed extra time to beat them.
    Then either the Blues, who scored two late tries to beat them, or the Brumbies, who are an Aussie team.

    Yes, chances aren't that high, that's 3 big wins in a row, all on the road, but I'm sticking a bonus bet on it

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    #1222

    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

    The Hurricanes had an average crowd of 14k this year which isn’t too bad. I wonder how that fairs against the other Kiwi sides.

    I’m sure if we make the semi and the final the Tin will be close to a sell out for those games.

    Highlanders announced this morning about 75k people had attended games at Forsyth Barr this year so over the 6 games thats and average of 12500

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    #1223

    The Crusaders average crowd attendance for the season was 12,600.

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    #1224

    The Chiefs average crowd was 14,200

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    #1225

    What was the Blues out of interest?

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    #1226

    @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2024:

    What was the Blues out of interest?

    Only team that hasn’t posted. Will keep an eye out. I’d say they would of had the most though.

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    SouthernMann
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    #1227

    Highlanders should be stoked with 12.5k. Top result and shows the franchise is working hard to engage with fans. For a mid-table finish with a team of nobodies those are great numbers.

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    #1228

    @Kirwan said in Super Rugby 2024:

    What was the Blues out of interest?

    Last 3 were 22k, 15k, 26k
    The Whangarei game was ~14k I think?

    Then there was two low crowds against Aussies sides and a goodish crowd in terrible conditions v the Crusaders

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    #1229

    Having Kiwi derbies will help the home crowd numbers. Games against the Aust teams and MP don't have the same draw. The Drua bring plenty of fans with them so are more like an all-NZ game.

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    #1230

    So, the issue then isn’t really crowds, its that most teams are in stadiums three times too big for most of the games.

    I think averaging between 10k to 15K in NZ is killing it tbh.

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    replied to gt12 on last edited by
    #1231

    @gt12 thats what ive been thinking for a while, especially when you see the kind of atmosphere 7-8k in a 9-10k stadium can generate

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    #1232

    @gt12 said in Super Rugby 2024:

    So, the issue then isn’t really crowds, its that most teams are in stadiums three times too big for most of the games.

    I think averaging between 10k to 15K in NZ is killing it tbh.

    but, you know, you need 35,000 seats or the NZRU won't chuck you an AB test maybe once a year

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #1233

    @mariner4life this ^

    i'm assuming its worth it, that one game minus the extra cost to host
    i cant help thinking filling a smaller one every week might generate more buzz and have a greater positive in the long run

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @mariner4life this ^

    i'm assuming its worth it, that one game minus the extra cost to host
    i cant help thinking filling a smaller one every week might generate more buzz and have a greater positive in the long run

    Isn't the problem broadcasting etc from our smaller stadiums, and them not having anough facilities etc?

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    Kiwiwomble
    replied to Dan54 on last edited by
    #1235

    im really not sure what the requirements are, i feel a couple of elevated camera positions shouldnt be too hard

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
    #1236

    @Kiwiwomble assuming you are looking at night games, there are minimum requirements to be able to air it in HD I believe.

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @mariner4life this ^

    i'm assuming its worth it, that one game minus the extra cost to host
    i cant help thinking filling a smaller one every week might generate more buzz and have a greater positive in the long run

    There aren't smaller stadiums though. Building boutique smaller venues would be very expensive, and not worth it. Stadiums are money pits. Rugby Park in Invercargill is shot, Yarrow Stadium has been struggling with its upgrade. Plenty of other issues around the country. The scalability of London stadia across the city is a nice example, just very unrealistic for NZ. As mentioned city's like Dunedin, Hamilton and Christchurch want to hold on to All Black opportunities. While other events are also utilised at the venues. NZ would go septic if there was a national stadium in Auckland that go all the big events

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
    wrote on last edited by
    #1238

    Is anyone going to turn up to watch the Hurricanes and Blues thrash the Rebels and Drua this weekend? What are crowd numbers required to turn profits?

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
    #1239

    @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

    Is anyone going to turn up to watch the Hurricanes and Blues thrash the Rebels and Drua this weekend? What are crowd numbers required to turn profits?

    I would think Drua fans might come out in good numbers in Auckland. Their first game at Eden Park.

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #1240

    Wellington teams love losing money.

    It’s not unheard of for a team to make the final and yet not manage to break even financially, while last year the Hurricanes made the playoffs, were beaten in the quarterfinals by the Brumbies in Canberra and posted a $1.4m loss.

    The Brumbies have been a perennial fixture in the Super Rugby Pacific playoffs, but they haven’t been able to finish in the coveted top two spots to secure more than one home knock-out fixture, and they lost a combined $490,000 in 2022 and 2023.

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