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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @reprobate Yeah - for the most part, I thought DMac was very good. A few kicks in the latter part of the second half that were a bit aimless (my favourite play of the match was when he chip kicked and Scott Barrett suddenly realised that he was supposed to be Will Jordan and lurched forward - we somehow won a penalty, so it ended better than it deserved!). DMac's passing was quick and accurate.

    I thought Perenara was surprisingly good - not Aaron Smith but there are few who are. Christie had a rough start - the de Groot penalty came from a lack of combination between him and Ardie - hopefully won't happen again. Got better as the game went on and a series of good box kicks towards the end.

    It would be madness not to pick Ardie - we are a bit short of magic-makers in the current selection and he is one who regularly does special things. Less attempted intercepts would be good from him - if you go for it, you'd better get it. I wouldn't mind if they transitioned him back to 7, but not in this series.

    Injuries will probably dictate who plays next weekend. TJ apparently proclaiming he's feeling fabulous - but, we need to wait to see whether he's Boobie Miles, or not (Friday Night Lights).

    Finau with a failed HIA.

    I wonder whether Clarke might have played on the left wing if he was fit - and wouldn't mind him there this week if he's recovered.

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    @Frank said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Windows97
    Fair critique, yet we still won.
    Wonder what happens when we get it right.

    We'll win by 30 if we get it right, the obvious talent and finishing power is there, it's all the hard work required to break the shackles first is the bit we need to work on.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I wonder whether Clarke might have played on the left wing if he was fit - and wouldn't mind him there this week if he's recovered.

    His owrk in the air, particularly on kickoffs is amazing. He'd be a lock for me to start

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    @nzzp Seems to me that he's also passing more, rather than just taking the ball to ground, which was one of my criticisms of him in 2022.

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    I think it's a pretty simple fix for the AB's though, just get better coordination between our carriers and cleaners and our attack will start to click. I think we just set up too wide and were getting beaten by the english linespeed so the defenders we getting to the breakdown before the cleaners were. When that happends it's always going to be a tough day at the office. If we fix that we'll be golden.

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    @Windows97 Yes - Rieko had a tough day at the office - but, a couple of times he got the man and the ball at the same time and there's not much he can do about that.

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    I am pretty excited to see what we look like with more games under our belts. DMac was putting guys in holes, but as pointed out, our support wasn't quite clicking, and it was clunky when we switched from forwards to backs.

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    @mariner4life Yeah - little mistakes killed us.

    We gave up several sucker penalties with a dominant scrum. Some lineout glitches also cost plenty of field position. DMac's non-kick. Ardie's forward pass when we'd opened them up. Some fumbles in the backline. Three chip kicks that weren't close to being recovered.

    We also got a couple of seemingly fortuitous calls from the ref. I still haven't worked out how we won that last penalty to end the game - but my eyes aren't as fast as they used to be.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I still haven't worked out how we won that last penalty to end the game - but my eyes aren't as fast as they used to be.

    I think (??!) that the ref considered the tackler moved forward rather than place the ball - which was why Tupou and Dalts fell over. But yeah, it looked weird. We couldn't see if either of them got hands to the ball as the ref was on teh other side of the ruck.

    I'll take it though!

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    @nzzp I thought he was going to ping us for being off our feet when his arm went up.

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    @nzzp @Chris-B

    Penalty Cane before they fell over. Probably fell over because of the holding on.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @nzzp @Chris-B

    Penalty Cane before they fell over. Probably fell over because of the holding on.

    did you see it? Happened super fast and I coulnd't see it even on slomo

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    Watched a snippet on X from All Blacks (I think).

    Had to watch several times.

    Got to watch Vaa'i.

    He releases, and grabs the ball.

    Dalton then crashes into him as he's trying to lift.

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    @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:

    if Papps job is to clear the ruck and make tackles he should be at 6 not 7,

    Agree with everything but this.

    I'm struggling to think of a time this millennium where that wasn't the job of the openside.

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    All Blacks vs England takeaways: The Perenara fade away, Razor's defensive concern

    All Blacks vs England takeaways: The Perenara fade away, Razor's defensive concern

    We saw a number of new things from the All Blacks under Razor and his coaching staff, here are four takeaways from the first Test.

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:

    if Papps job is to clear the ruck and make tackles he should be at 6 not 7,

    Agree with everything but this.

    I'm struggling to think of a time this millennium where that wasn't the job of the openside.

    i agree although i took him to mean, and i may have read my own thoughts into it, if your 6 is doing that then he should be a 6...i.e. 7 not a jackal threat

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    This was very nice work:

    https://v.redd.it/8r2c9zml01bd1

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    @Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

    This was very nice work:

    https://v.redd.it/8r2c9zml01bd1

    Not the videoing, filming a widescreen TV in portrait, fucking idiot.

    He didn't get the penalty for that either, I don't think? Or am I misremembering?

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    @Machpants I was just trying to recall too.

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  • pukunuiP Offline
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    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

    This was very nice work:

    https://v.redd.it/8r2c9zml01bd1

    Not the videoing, filming a widescreen TV in portrait, fucking idiot.

    He didn't get the penalty for that either, I don't think? Or am I misremembering?

    Nah, they didn’t call it. I was wondering if the radio link between the touchy and the ref was playing up because it looks like the touchy was trying to say something but play went on.

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