NPC Div 1 - Final rounds
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TEAM PLAYED POINTS STILL TO PLAY Canterbury 8 35 Harbour (h) Counties (a) Taranaki 8 27 Wellington (a) Auckland (h) Auckland 8 27 Ta$man (h) Taranaki (a) Counties 8 25 Otago (a) Canterbury (h) Ta$man 7 22 Auckland (a) Harbour (a) Southland (h) Waikato 8 20 Hawkes Bay (h) Wellington (a) Hawke's Bay 8 14 Waikato (a) BOP (h) Semi Finals
Some big games left amongst the the contenders (home team first):
Auckland vs Ta$man
Counties vs Canterbury
Taranaki vs AucklandAuckland with the hardest run in
Ta$man can make up the most ground
Waikato need a bit of luck with other results
Relegation
Waikato vs Hawkes Bay has become an important match after the Taniwha result. Waikato could get passed by HB in the final round if they drop this one
Technically Ta$man could still drop but they just need a couple of bonus points to be safe.
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Auckland-Taranaki should probably be added to the big games among the contenders (I expect that's a typo).
Auckland has suddenly found some ominous form and I'm highly pessimistic about Ta$man's (who have managed to play well only in 30 minute bursts) chances against them. I think we're going to get humped.
Given the short turnarounds we have it wouldn't be entirely stupid to name a weakened team against them (i.e. rest Marty Banks) and target 10 points from the Harbour/Southland combo. That would give us 32 points, which is my target and I reckon will be enough to make the top 4. Counties would have to beat Canterbury to get past that and Taranaki would need at least a point from Auckland. Failures to rack up 4 try bonus points has been a bit of a killer - though on the plus side we've won a raft of close games.
In fact, Canterbury might struggle in the play-offs against Auckland on current form. I hope Hansen isn't going to make a farce of all that has gone before by releasing a slew of ABs to play in the play-offs.
Hadn't really considered that Hawkes Bay might still save themselves - but, if they beat Waikato then I'd rather play BoP than Wellington.
And..to round out my comments on NPC ....congratulations to Northland!
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The losses to Waikato and Counties could cost us. Hopefully that Otago performance will kickstart our season.
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Team Points Last Game Points Difference Canterbury 40 Counties (away) +190 Taranaki 32 Auckland (home) +76 Counties Man 29 Canterbury (home) +38 Auckland 28 Taranaki (away) +36 Ta$man 27 NH(away) and Southland (home) +16 Waikato 25 Wellington (away) + 6 Hawke's Bay 14 BOP (home) -130 Canterbury will finish first
Hawkes Bay will be relegatedMatches involving the semi final contenders
Date Match Venue 12-Oct North Harbour v Ta$man Albany 13-Oct Taranaki v Auckland New Plymouth 15-Oct Counties Manukau v Canterbury Pukekohe 15-Oct Wellington v Waikato Wellington 16-Oct Ta$man v Southland Nelson You'd expect Ta$man to beat North Harbour and Southland
Waikato fans will be happy that Wellingtons form has dropped off so much -
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@Duluth said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:
and Wellington over Waikato (assuming Counties doesn't beat Canterbury)
Touch wood, I can't see Waikato getting 5 pts off Welly and if they get 4 we should still beat them on count back
What are the count back rules again? I saw someone post them a while back.
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Found it....
the winner of the round robin match between the two provinces
highest overall points difference
highest number of tries scored
highest number of points scored
a coin tossCM beat both Waikato and Auck (although very unlikely a tie break will be needed against Auck). Lost to Ta$man (again unlikely tie break required)
CMs first option is to win, then just to pick up Bps, then to hope for Naki to beat Auck and Auck to get a max of 1 point.
I see last place going to CM or Auck. Waikato an outsider.
If CM take fourth place they will play Canterbury again
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@Crucial said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:
@Duluth said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:
and Wellington over Waikato (assuming Counties doesn't beat Canterbury)
Touch wood, I can't see Waikato getting 5 pts off Welly and if they get 4 we should still beat them on count back
What are the count back rules again? I saw someone post them a while back.
Posted on the ITM Cup website last year:
Tie break rules: In case two teams are tied on competition points after round robin, here's what happens: i) The winner of the round robin match between the two sides has the higher position ii) If they didn't play a round robin match, then it goes to points difference If three (or more) teams are tied on competition points, here's what happens: i) The team that has earned the most competition points against the other teams has the higher position ii) If there's still a tie, it goes to points difference Should teams still be tied after looking at previous results and points difference, then here's how the tie gets broken: i) The team with the most tries across the competition has the higher position ii) If tries scored across the competition is the same, then the team with the most points goes ahead And if that doesn't work: it comes down to the toss of a coin!http://mitre10cup.co.nz/News/28264/itm-cup-tie-breaks-and-cheer-guide
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@Duluth said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:
You'd expect Ta$man to beat North Harbour and Southland
Waikato fans will be happy that Wellingtons form has dropped off so muchWouldn't want to take anything for granted in this competition, but I'm pretty hopeful of Ta$man winning those two games (Harbour has been a problem team for us in the past). Getting a bonus point from both is really the key - if we pick up 10 points then we get a home semi.
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@Chris-B. said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:
@Duluth said in NPC Div 1 - Final rounds:
You'd expect Ta$man to beat North Harbour and Southland
Waikato fans will be happy that Wellingtons form has dropped off so muchWouldn't want to take anything for granted in this competition, but I'm pretty hopeful of Ta$man winning those two games (Harbour has been a problem team for us in the past). Getting a bonus point from both is really the key - if we pick up 10 points then we get a home semi.
Well you were right about Harbour. No 10 points now
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