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  • StargazerS Offline
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    @Bovidae said in Nz maori:

    Some of Cooper's selections will be dependent on who makes the AB squad, e.g. R Ioane, DMac.

    The midfield options seem to be lacking in experience and quality.

    [Rieko Ioane (Blues/Auckland)]
    Jason Emery (Highlanders/Manawatu)
    Matt Proctor (Hurricanes/Wellington)
    Sean Wainui (Crusaders/Taranaki)
    Jonah Lowe (NZU20s/Hawke's Bay)

    These players lack quality? Lowe is the only one lacking Super Rugby experience, but NPC players have been selected for the Maori side before without having played Super Rugby.

    I don't agree with you at all.

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    I'd be playing Ioane on the wing not midfield.

    Is Proctor fit?

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Nz maori:

    I'd be playing Ioane on the wing not midfield.

    Is Proctor fit?

    Proctor is recovering from a concussion. I guess it will depend on the seriousness of the concussion whether he'll be available for selection.

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    @Stargazer I don't see anyone in that list who could be considered a backline leader like Ngatai was last year.

    Here was the Maori backline that played the Baabaas.

    1. Tawera Kerr-Barlow, 10. Marty McKenzie, 11. Matt Proctor, 12. Charlie Ngatai, 13. Sean Wainui, 14. Rieko Ioane, 15. Damian McKenzie.

    So perhaps Proctor and Wainui would be the favoured midfield duo based on who is available this year.

    The Baabaas backline and team were dominant in the game.
    9. Mitchell Drummond, 10. Tom Taylor (VC), 11. Patrick Osborne, 12. George Moala, 13. Seta Tamanivalu, 14. Cory Jane, 15. Andrew Horrell

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    @Bovidae said in Nz maori:

    @Stargazer I don't see anyone in that list who could be considered a backline leader like Ngatai was last year.

    Here was the Maori backline that played the Baabaas.

    1. Tawera Kerr-Barlow, 10. Marty McKenzie, 11. Matt Proctor, 12. Charlie Ngatai, 13. Sean Wainui, 14. Rieko Ioane, 15. Damian McKenzie.

    So perhaps Proctor and Wainui would be the favoured midfield duo based on who is available this year.

    The Baabaas backline and team were dominant in the game.
    9. Mitchell Drummond, 10. Tom Taylor (VC), 11. Patrick Osborne, 12. George Moala, 13. Seta Tamanivalu, 14. Cory Jane, 15. Andrew Horrell

    Maybe that's why they might be considering Bateman, who has captained the team a few years ago.

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    Is Joe Tupe maori ? And Parete ?

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    @Wurzel I thought they were Samoan.

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    @cgrant Not sure on Tupe but Parete has played for Taranaki Maori. Joe Royal is still playing but hasn't featured much, We have Toma and Tipuna at half-back and Kelly Haimona but he's an Italian international. Isaac Te Aute isn't ready yet

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    Maori All Blacks squad named:

    Player Province Whakapapa
    Leni Apisai * Wellington Ngati Awa
    Tim Bateman Canterbury Ngai Tahu
    Otere Black Manawatu Ngai Tuhoe / Te Whanau a Apanui / Ngati Tuwharetoa
    Shane Christie Ta$man Te Ati Haunui a Paparangi / Ngati Kurawhatia
    Ash Dixon, Captain Hawkes Bay Ngati Tahinga
    Whetu Douglas * Waikato Ngati Porou / Ngati Whakaue
    Jason Emery Manawatu Ngati Haua / Ngati Maniapoto
    Chris Eves Manawatu Waikato / Tainui
    Tom Franklin Otago Ngati Maniapoto
    Billy Guyton * Ta$man Ngapuhi / Ngati Pikiao / Ngati Raukawa
    Kane Hames Ta$man Ngai Tuhoe / Ngati Porou
    Akira Ioane Auckland Ngapuhi / Te Whanau a Apanui
    Mike Kainga Taranaki Ngati Kahungunu
    James Lowe Ta$man Ngapuhi / Ngai Te Rangi
    Ben May Hawkes Bay Ngati Maniapoto
    Marty McKenzie Taranaki Ngati Tuwharetoa / Ngati Tahinga
    Leighton Price * Taranaki Waikato / Ngati Maniapoto
    Reed Prinsep * Canterbury Te Rarawa
    Matt Proctor Wellington Ngai Te Rangi / Ngapuhi
    Kara Pryor * Northland Ngati Awa / Ngati Pikiao / Ngati Rangitihi
    Marcel Renata Auckland Ngati Whanaunga / Te Aupouri
    Joe Royal Bay of Plenty Te Arawa / Ngati Whatua o Orakei / Ngapuhi
    Jacob Skeen Waikato Ngapuhi
    Sean Wainui Taranaki Ngai Tuhoe / Te Aitanga a Mahaki / Nga Arikikaiputahi / Ngati Porou
    Brad Weber Hawkes Bay Ngati Porou
    Ihaia West Hawkes Bay Ngati Kahungunu / Ngati Porou

    Captain: Ash Dixon

    One injured player, Declan O'Donnell is currently injured and will be replaced. Charlie Ngatai, last year's skipper, is still injured.

    New players: Leni Apisai (Wellington), Whetu Douglas (Waikato), Billy Guyton ( Ta$man), Leighton Price (Taranaki), Reed Prinsep (Canterbury) and Kara Pryor (Northland)

    Five players still involved in Mitre 10 Cup Finals will join the squad in Auckland after their matches this weekend.
    
    The squad flies out on Sunday night.
    

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/30023/maori-all-blacks-squad-named-for-northern-tour

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    Sweet. Looking forward to this. Got tickets to the game in chicago on Groupon for $15!

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    No Hika? He's still a better player than the captain of the team.

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    His attitude gets the best of him again I suspect./.....

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  • SammyCS Offline
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    @Nepia said in Nz maori:

    No Hika? He's still a better player than the captain of the team.

    Must be a massive dickhead.

    A shame because he could have been an All Black for many years

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    @Nepia said in Nz maori:

    No Hika? He's still a better player than the captain of the team.

    He hasn't played much this season, has he?
    I'm mostly disappointed by the absence of Jonah Lowe. Nothing better than two J Lowes on the wing.

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    @Stargazer said in Nz maori:

    @Nepia said in Nz maori:

    No Hika? He's still a better player than the captain of the team.

    He hasn't played much this season, has he?
    I'm mostly disappointed by the absence of Jonah Lowe. Nothing better than two J Lowes on the wing.

    Oh yeah, I forgot about Jonah - he might have got close.

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    Just found out I am getting tickets to the last game against Quins. Should be a bit of fun. Think I get to the after match as well so will be able to dish out a bit of advice 😉

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  • Magpie_in_ausM Offline
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    I thougt Hoani Matenga would have gone close with the lack of depth in lock and can play loose forward.

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    Good squad, good captain and good coach.

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  • broughieB Offline
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    @antipodean is cooper really that good? From my memory his successes have been limited.

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