Willising it up on a cold Invercargill day.......
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It is indeed unfortunate that this guy plays pro rugby, and that several events have happened in a short space of time. But considering the scandals and serious crimes some of their 'heroes' have been involved in, the English media casting stones on another country's sportsmen is beyond a joke.
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@No-Quarter said in Willising it up on a cold Invercargill day.......:
I honestly couldn't give a fuck about this story, it has absolutely nothing to do with me, and nothing to do with rugby. It's just another case about a weirdo, that happened to play rugby.
This weird NZ-media led attack on the NZRU is a complete load of click-bait shit.
How come we don't see stories highlighting the Chartered Accountants as a group every time one appears in court? Or the legal profession, or roading construction workers etc etc
While your actions may sometimes reflect poorly on your employer (if done as part of, or related to, your work) it isn't your employer's place to monitor your off work behaviour.
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@Crucial said in Willising it up on a cold Invercargill day.......:
@No-Quarter said in Willising it up on a cold Invercargill day.......:
I honestly couldn't give a fuck about this story, it has absolutely nothing to do with me, and nothing to do with rugby. It's just another case about a weirdo, that happened to play rugby.
This weird NZ-media led attack on the NZRU is a complete load of click-bait shit.
How come we don't see stories highlighting the Chartered Accountants as a group every time one appears in court? Or the legal profession, or roading construction workers etc etc
While your actions may sometimes reflect poorly on your employer (if done as part of, or related to, your work) it isn't your employer's place to monitor your off work behaviour.
Maybe because there are no "famous" chartered accountants or roading construction workers, who are considered as role models? (To be clear, I find the whole idea of rugby players/sports people as role models insane)
I'm quite sure that over the years there have been a few stories about judges/lawyers that were used to criticise the legal profession (maybe not as much as rugby, but that's - again - because they are generally not well-known).
By the way, now and then you see these lists of the least trusted professions, and surprise, surprise, journalists are the least trusted. This is from 2016:
MPs rank slightly ahead of journalists, the least-trusted group, and behind local council members, lawyers and civil servants, who are all below the half-way mark in a survey of public trust and confidence.At the other end of the scale - the occupational groups and organisations which inspire the greatest public trust and confidence - are the ambulance service, the Fire Service, doctors and nurses, the police and school teachers.http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11462191
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@jegga That BBC article made me cringe, so much so I expected to see Stephen Jones byline on it. It's a fairly typical journo assassination job, it takes something that is not really measurable but quite apparent (the NZ obsession with rugby and the ABs) and then extrapolates a huge amount of bullshit from that. All I can say is sorry on behalf of the British element of the British Broadcasting Corporation.
Looking at the rest of this thread and seeing the comparisons between Kiwi rugby fans and the more feral Argies, England footy fans, any South American footy fans etc, from what I've seen I'd have to agree that there is nowhere near the level of overkill from the average Kiwi rugby fan but I'm not sure that this is the point being made. It's not the feralness (ferality?) of the fans, it is the all pervading degree of interest (I really mean more than just interest but obsession is a bit strong and I've used it once already) that is all over the country. The degree to which rugby players and rugby news is so important to NZ makes it different to anywhere else. It seems to me that this is the biggest part of Kiwi rugby strength through the years, the sheer level of importance that is attached to rugby.
Value it, enjoy the success it helps to bring and above all nurture it.
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@jegga said in Willising it up on a cold Invercargill day.......:
"You won't see the New Zealand public out there trying to burn Aaron Smith's effigy," said Nigel Dobbie, a Sydney-based Kiwi supporter.
"They are very forgiving. They expect the powers that be to exercise their powers of discipline and we move on. I don't think he should be kicked off the All Blacks for what he did."I don't get it. He cheated on his mrs, what does the kiwi public have to forgive him for?
As for Halaholo, the amount of young kids in that story is really concerning.
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I am getting sick to death of the Smith incident being lumped in with Losi and Halaholo etc.
One is a guy being a douchebag, who happened to be recorded by a pair of perverts. The others are men who committed serious crimes, and are being dealt with in the judicial system.
The fact that the trial by media has been so intense on the douchebaggery, is quite frankly disgusting and entirely out of proportion to what went on.
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not to mention, of all the things that have happened, would they all of still happened had they not been rugby players?
Did Losi assault those people because he was a rugby player? Did Halaholo do what he did cos he was a rugby player? Did the Chiefs do what they did cos they are rugby players?
I guess in Smith's case, being a famous rugby player probably gives him more opportunity, but if you are going to shag about, you aren't gonna do it just cos you are a rugby player!
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I am sure this is NZR's fault, too! Impatiently waiting for their apology ...
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assume this is the fault of NZR too, for having an event that lead to this!
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11729094
