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    • booboo
      booboo last edited by

      Been playing a game upside ma head.

      What if we're left with the 4th choice in each position come AB selection time?

      ie the top three choices in each postion are injured.

      Inspired by the magnificence of having to select Beaver but having to do so in all postions come first test v Lions.

      What would we look like?

      Have played with the rules inside my head such that you're allowed to pick players in more than one position, ie, Israel Dagg can be 2nd choice fullback AND first choice right wing. And 6s and 8s are also in line for multiple positions.

      And midfield... i.e., ALB can be in the top 3 12s and top 3 13s.but have tried to pick midfielders 7 and 8.

      Similarlt have tried to pick at lock choices 7 and 8.

      Am also assuming injured players are available.

      So your fourth XV would be?

      Mine as follows ... might (!!) have missed a few ... have Shiraz induced memory issues ... :

      1. Hames
      2. Elliott
      3. Tu'ungafasi
      4. Fatialofa
      5. GCT
      6. Luatua
      7. Gibson
      8. Ioane
      9. Pulu
      10. MacKenzie
      11. Moala
      12. Laumape
      13. Proctor
      14. Duffie
      15. Barrett
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      • Bones
        Bones last edited by Bones

        Hah, so our 4th XV is the blues with a couple of other franchise combos and a couple of stragglers 😁

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        • booboo
          booboo @Bones last edited by

          @Bones said in Fourth XV:

          Hah, so our 4th XV is the blues with a couple of other franchise combos and a couple of stragglers 😁

          Actually when you put it like that that's probably not surprising ...

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          • KiwiMurph
            KiwiMurph last edited by

            In fairness the Blues with Mackenzie at 10 would have beaten the Canes on the weekend (and probably a couple of other kiwi derbies this season).

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            • MN5
              MN5 @Bones last edited by

              @Bones said in Fourth XV:

              Hah, so our 4th XV is the blues with a couple of other franchise combos and a couple of stragglers 😁

              Can we separate them based on height and weight? I for one would find that a lot easier.

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              • Bovidae
                Bovidae @booboo last edited by

                @booboo Wouldn't Hames be the 3rd choice LH behind Moody and Crockett based on selection last year? Manu or Goodes are probably in the 4th spot.

                Lowe must be good enough to make our 4th XV.

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                • Crazy Horse
                  Crazy Horse @MN5 last edited by

                  @MN5 what about a brothers 15? We would have the ALBs, the surveyors, the Ioanes, the Barretts, the Whitelocks. That's 11 off the top of my head. Who am I forgetting?

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                  • Tim
                    Tim last edited by

                    Franks and Pryors.

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                    • MN5
                      MN5 @Crazy Horse last edited by

                      @Crazy-Horse said in Fourth XV:

                      @MN5 what about a brothers 15? We would have the ALBs, the surveyors, the Ioanes, the Barretts, the Whitelocks. That's 11 off the top of my head. Who am I forgetting?

                      Conrad and his little brothers Ben and Aaron

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                      • Crazy Horse
                        Crazy Horse @Tim last edited by

                        @Tim I was thinking NZbased so that would rule out the Franks. But Pryors fir sure.

                        Sopoagas...

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                        • Bovidae
                          Bovidae last edited by

                          The McKenzies.

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                          • Duluth
                            Duluth last edited by

                            Goodhues

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                            • KiwiMurph
                              KiwiMurph last edited by

                              Faianes

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                              • Crazy Horse
                                Crazy Horse last edited by

                                I reckon a brothers team would be pretty bloody strong. Struggling a bit at hooker, half back and prop though.

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                                • Duluth
                                  Duluth last edited by

                                  Ofa and Isi Tu'ungafasi

                                  Isi is only a fringe NPC player though

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                                  • KiwiMurph
                                    KiwiMurph @Duluth last edited by

                                    @Duluth DLB could be a prop with ALB in midfield.

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                                    • Snowy
                                      Snowy @Crazy Horse last edited by

                                      @Crazy-Horse said in Fourth XV:

                                      @MN5 what about a brothers 15?

                                      Classic thread hijack, nice work. 🏅

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                                      • Crazy Horse
                                        Crazy Horse @Snowy last edited by

                                        @Snowy I was thinking the same thing. Considered giving myself a pat on the back.

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                                        • Chris B.
                                          Chris B. last edited by Chris B.

                                          Not a fan of your re-using players, booboo - though I might make a few slight tactical selections such as not selecting Dagg in the 1st XV, because he's really our 2nd best fullback.

                                          I don't agree with DMac ahead of Mo'unga in your team, but in any case, he makes my third XV at fullback - fractionally ahead of Jordie Barrett.

                                          No injuries...might have a wing or two playing on the wrong side...

                                          Moody
                                          Crockett
                                          Hames
                                          Manu

                                          Coles
                                          Taylor
                                          Harris
                                          Coltman

                                          Franks
                                          Faumuina
                                          Laulala
                                          Tu'ungafasi

                                          Retallick
                                          Romano
                                          Tuipolotu
                                          Franklin

                                          Whitelock
                                          Barrett
                                          Bird
                                          Fatialofa

                                          Kaino
                                          Messam
                                          Dixon
                                          Taufua

                                          Cane
                                          Todd
                                          Savea
                                          Christie

                                          Read
                                          Squire
                                          Luatua
                                          L. Whitelock

                                          Smith
                                          Perenara
                                          TKB
                                          Pulu

                                          Barrett
                                          Cruden
                                          Sopoaga
                                          Mo'unga

                                          Crotty
                                          ALB
                                          Ngatai
                                          Moala

                                          SBW
                                          Fekitoa
                                          Tamanivalu
                                          Proctor

                                          Savea
                                          Nanai
                                          Lowe
                                          Li

                                          NMS
                                          Naholo
                                          R. Ioane
                                          T. Pulu

                                          Smith
                                          Dagg
                                          McKenzie
                                          Barrett

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                                          • Duluth
                                            Duluth @Chris B. last edited by

                                            @Chris-B.

                                            Typo in your props? Fatialofa should be Faumuina

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                                            • Chris B.
                                              Chris B. @Duluth last edited by

                                              @Duluth Yes - definitely! 🙂

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                                              • Bovidae
                                                Bovidae @Chris B. last edited by

                                                @Chris-B. I don't think Toni Pulu is eligible for the ABs as he played sevens for Niue.

                                                Perhaps Duffie gets back in?

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                                                • Stargazer
                                                  Stargazer @Chris B. last edited by

                                                  @Chris-B. Although I don't agree with all your selections (or the order of them), the most important change that I would make (apart from replacing Toni Pulu with Aso) is including Buckman, probably instead of Ngatai, who has been away from rugby for too long, sadly.

                                                  I'd probably also pick Goodes ahead of Manu (just asking, hasn't Manu played for Samoa?), although he'd maybe be my no. 3 and Hames no.4.

                                                  Also, if we're talking about healthy players, I'd select Brad Weber ahead of A Pulu.

                                                  Li wouldn't make my team. Although he hasn't convinced me completely yet, Duffie looks better than Li. Geez, I'd even pick Mataele ahead of Li.

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                                                  • Chester Draws
                                                    Chester Draws @Chris B. last edited by

                                                    I'd have Brad Weber ahead of A. Pulu (as did the Chiefs).

                                                    A whole bunch ahead of Tevita Li - Matt Duffie certainly. Also Ben Lam, Corey Jane.

                                                    I don't think George Moala is test level at centre due to his error rate, so I'd move him ahead of T. Pulu on the wing and move in someone like Laumape.

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                                                    • Bovidae
                                                      Bovidae @Stargazer last edited by

                                                      @Stargazer Manu got himself a RWC winners medal as an injury replacement so that's a negative.

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                                                      • Chris B.
                                                        Chris B. @Stargazer last edited by

                                                        @Stargazer Actually, I was thinking to perhaps replace Pulu with Buckman - although I like Buckman more in the midfield.

                                                        I haven't necessarily picked my favourites - but, more leaned towards how I think Hansen etc see things. So those like e.g. Hames and Manu who've been previously been picked for the ABs have stayed there at the expense of people like Goodes - though, in all honesty, I've never really noticed Goodes dominating scrums (which I've certainly seen from Hames and Manu) or being a huge force around the field.

                                                        I'm not keen on Tevita Li, but I was mainly struggling to think of other credible left wings. Does Duffie play on the left? Aso? Pretty sure Cory Jane is a right wing.

                                                        Not Ben Lam for me Chester. 🙂

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