Movie review thread...
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@Machpants i havent finished it yet (cant get Mrs womble to re watch the OG's let alone the series)....expectations were SUPER low...so if anything its slightly...every so slightly better than i expected
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Probably not as bad as this haha
The guy who sued Amazon for infringing on his Lord of the Rings fanfic takes a massive L, now owes $134,000 to the Tolkien Estate
Author Demetrious Polychron wanted $250 million for infringement of his book The Fellowship of the King.
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@Machpants said in Movie review thread...:
@Kiwiwomble said in Movie review thread...:
@Machpants and fair enough as ruining anything as good as LotR is a crime, i guess im a bit lucky as these things only bug me if they actually detract from the story rather than needing a good reason to change and i dont feel most of the diversity casting does that (for me, might do for others)...and definitely not compared to the actually story issues or how different characters are from the movies....maybe we'll see them change into the characters we know over the course of the series...but i doubt it
Well I have read The History of Middle Earth, Silmarillion, etc so I get nerd-rage. But it was also an average as fcuk story with the black survival of the fittest hobbits, and whiny war goddess galadriel and then the rings just got made. Meh.
How Christopher Lee Fell Out (And Made Up) With Peter Jackson
Their friendship was jeopardised when Jackson cut him from the final movie in the 'Lord of the Rings’ series.
Ridiculous move from Jackson
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@Kruse said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
Ridiculous move from Jackson
Putting him in the Hobbit movies? Yep.
More referring to them cutting him out of LOTR so there was more time for hobbits bouncing on beds together.
Totally gay.
Of course I’m a bit more worldly and well rounded than I was 20 years ago. Much more accepting and liberal.
But it’s still totally gay.
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Cutting him from Return of the King made, and makes, total sense.
But yeah - the hobbit pillow-fights could have been cut.
I watched the entire Director's Cut trilogy a little while back - and found new appreciation for editors.
I can't remember how much of the gaiety was in the originals... probably need to go back and watch the cinema-cut at some point.
That article suggests that the Saruman's speech/death was never included at all? THAT is whack... it should have been included at the end of Two Towers as a full-stop on that villain, with ReturnOfTheKing then focused on Sauron, as PeteyJ said. -
Anyway - I only came here to find inspiration for a light-hearted numb-the-brain Thursday-night ~90-minute movie inspiration.
Not to debate movies based on fucking nerd books. <Note-to-self: do NOT mention how many times child-Kruse read LOTR... it's embarrassing, NOT impressive> Fucking nerds.
Anyway - I've managed to scroll back a full 20 posts - and I guess it's whichever of Family Plan or Fast Charlie the raging rivers happen to deliver first.
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@Kruse said in Movie review thread...:
Cutting him from Return of the King made, and makes, total sense.
But yeah - the hobbit pillow-fights could have been cut.
I watched the entire Director's Cut trilogy a little while back - and found new appreciation for editors.
I can't remember how much of the gaiety was in the originals... probably need to go back and watch the cinema-cut at some point.
That article suggests that the Saruman's speech/death was never included at all? THAT is whack... it should have been included at the end of Two Towers as a full-stop on that villain, with ReturnOfTheKing then focused on Sauron, as PeteyJ said.How did/does it make sense ?
I always liked Saruman as a bad guy….
Woulda been intriguing if they ever made a sequel to this…..
….and interesting to contrast it to this….
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@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
How did/does it make sense ?
I always liked Saruman as a bad guy….
Simplicity for movies...
Saruman's the baddie in TheTwoTowers.
Sauron's the baddie in ReturnOfTheKing
It is a massive shame the it meant they couldn't have the Scouring of the Shire in place of the endless back-slapping hobbit-pillow-fighting saccharine multiple-endings, but... it makes sense.
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@Kruse said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
How did/does it make sense ?
I always liked Saruman as a bad guy….
Simplicity for movies...
Saruman's the baddie in TheTwoTowers.
Sauron's the baddie in ReturnOfTheKing
It is a massive shame the it meant they couldn't have the Scouring of the Shire in place of the endless back-slapping hobbit-pillow-fighting saccharine multiple-endings, but... it makes sense.
Like the cutting of Tom whatever-his-name-was.Audiences couldn’t handle the fact there could be another baddie who was in cahoots with the main one ?
I liked how Saruman met his end in the book, it would have worked on screen and was annoyed at the Hobbit circle jerk.
Tom Bombadil was not missed though. Boring as fuck and pointless.
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Leave the World Behind
- Lots of unlikeable characters
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- Was Julia Roberts going out of her way to destroy her "Hollywood Untouchable Princess" persona?
- Lots of interesting ideas - just put in the wrong order/place/context
- Lots of irritating plot-unlikelihoods, if not necessarily gaps
- Lots of scenes with no-tits. Titwatch: zero. No titties to be had. Move along, no titties to see here.
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@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
@Kruse said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
How did/does it make sense ?
I always liked Saruman as a bad guy….
Simplicity for movies...
Saruman's the baddie in TheTwoTowers.
Sauron's the baddie in ReturnOfTheKing
It is a massive shame the it meant they couldn't have the Scouring of the Shire in place of the endless back-slapping hobbit-pillow-fighting saccharine multiple-endings, but... it makes sense.
Like the cutting of Tom whatever-his-name-was.Audiences couldn’t handle the fact there could be another baddie who was in cahoots with the main one ?
I liked how Saruman met his end in the book, it would have worked on screen and was annoyed at the Hobbit circle jerk.
Tom Bombadil was not missed though. Boring as fuck and pointless.
The heart core purists were apparently enraged Tom wasn't included but I was absolutely stoked. A bizarre character who was rightly cut from the film.
I'm thinking having two baddies with very similar names (well at least starting in S) may have confused some people.
If there is a quibble, we don't really get much info on wtf Sauron is. But we get waaaay too much info in that abomination of a new series.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
@Kruse said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
How did/does it make sense ?
I always liked Saruman as a bad guy….
Simplicity for movies...
Saruman's the baddie in TheTwoTowers.
Sauron's the baddie in ReturnOfTheKing
It is a massive shame the it meant they couldn't have the Scouring of the Shire in place of the endless back-slapping hobbit-pillow-fighting saccharine multiple-endings, but... it makes sense.
Like the cutting of Tom whatever-his-name-was.Audiences couldn’t handle the fact there could be another baddie who was in cahoots with the main one ?
I liked how Saruman met his end in the book, it would have worked on screen and was annoyed at the Hobbit circle jerk.
Tom Bombadil was not missed though. Boring as fuck and pointless.
The heart core purists were apparently enraged Tom wasn't included but I was absolutely stoked. A bizarre character who was rightly cut from the film.
I'm thinking having two baddies with very similar names (well at least starting in S) may have confused some people.
If there is a quibble, we don't really get much info on wtf Sauron is. But we get waaaay too much info in that abomination of a new series.
I remember scrolling through one of those nerdy encyclopedias about Middle Earth back in the day. Apparently Tom Bombadil was really powerful and immortal. But yeah, he did FUCK ALL in the story. Utterly pointless.
I’m still not buying the whole Sauron/Saruman thing being too confusing. One was an old wizard, the other was an angry looking eye. How is that confusing ?
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@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
I’m still not buying the whole Sauron/Saruman thing being too confusing. One was an old wizard, the other was an angry looking eye. How is that confusing ?
Wasn't Sauron when Saruman bent over?
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Obviously if you went anti fern and read the article, your know that it was about the flow of the movies, nothing to do with two bad guys being tricky for audiences
The problem is that the sequence was originally shot for The Two Towers, as it is in the book. Since The Two Towers couldn’t sustain a seven-minute 'wrap’ after Helm’s Deep, we thought it would be a good idea to save it for the beginning of the Return of the King,” he told Ain’t It Cool News back in 2003.
“The trouble is, when we viewed various ROTK cuts over the last few weeks, it feels like the first scenes are wrapping last year’s movie, instead of starting the new one. We felt it got Return Of The King off to an uncertain beginning, since Saruman plays no role in the events of ROTK (we don’t have the Scouring later, as the book does), yet we dwell in Isengard for quite a long time before our new story kicks off.
“We reluctantly made the decision to save this sequence for the DVD. The choice was made on the basis that most people will assume that Saruman was vanquished by the Helm’s Deep events, and Ent attack. We can now crack straight into setting up the narrative tension of ROTK, which features Sauron as the villain.”
Tom wasn't missed, even by me as a Tolkien nerd. But scouring of the Shire was, that is a proper ending to the series.
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@Machpants said in Movie review thread...:
Obviously if you went anti fern and read the article, your know that it was about the flow of the movies, nothing to do with two bad guys being tricky for audiences
The problem is that the sequence was originally shot for The Two Towers, as it is in the book. Since The Two Towers couldn’t sustain a seven-minute 'wrap’ after Helm’s Deep, we thought it would be a good idea to save it for the beginning of the Return of the King,” he told Ain’t It Cool News back in 2003.
“The trouble is, when we viewed various ROTK cuts over the last few weeks, it feels like the first scenes are wrapping last year’s movie, instead of starting the new one. We felt it got Return Of The King off to an uncertain beginning, since Saruman plays no role in the events of ROTK (we don’t have the Scouring later, as the book does), yet we dwell in Isengard for quite a long time before our new story kicks off.
“We reluctantly made the decision to save this sequence for the DVD. The choice was made on the basis that most people will assume that Saruman was vanquished by the Helm’s Deep events, and Ent attack. We can now crack straight into setting up the narrative tension of ROTK, which features Sauron as the villain.”
Tom wasn't missed, even by me as a Tolkien nerd. But scouring of the Shire was, that is a proper ending to the series.
Yeah is that where Saruman was behind the scenes and causing trouble after he’d lost his powers ?
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Jurassic Park
Finally got around to watching this. Even now the quality of the dinosaur models, animatronics and green screen is top notch.
The development of suspense is really well done, but overused. The movie feels too long as a result.
I can't think of a director that does movies with kids better than Spielberg.
That said, it reaffirms my belief that kids ruin everything.
