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  • Salacious CrumbS Offline
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    Beaver bio w/ Scotty Stevenson.

    Long excerpt published in Herald today, it's awesome.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11901269

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    Yeah I read that and thought it was interesting and well written. Just goes to show the players do struggle with all of the hate when they fuck up. Also goes to show what being an All Black means to these guys. Awesome story really.

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    Bought it this arvo and read through it. Sumo Stevenson can get pretty sycophantic as a commentator at times but he can tell a story and I think he's done well here.

    Cory Jane (also involving Sumo) book was a disappointment in the sense that firstly Upper Hutt's 2005 Swindale Shield win didn't get a mention but also the writing read much more like Sumo than it did C.J. Words were used that a bogan from Upper Hutt just would never use (or probably know in CJ's case)

    Won't put any spoilers in but glad I spent my $34.99 on it.

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    It says something about beaver that while we were castigating him over one kick a coaching legend like McGeechan was trying to sign him to his club .

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    Good read provided you can get the mental image of Fat Guts Hansen in a spa out of your mind. I've always thought the stories of the sportspeople who've done it tough like Beaver and Norm Hewitt are so much more interesting than Richie McCaws book which sucked arse. I leant it to someone who i cant quite remembet and don't even care where it is now.

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    @MN5 Gee that's really interesting, you've never mentioned that before.

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    @MN5 Did you actually read the book, or just watch the pictures?

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    @Bones said in Beaver book:

    @MN5 Gee that's really interesting, you've never mentioned that before.

    You middle eastern folk have memories like elephants.

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    @MN5 It makes revenge that much easier.

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    @Bones said in Beaver book:

    @MN5 It makes revenge that much easier.

    You forgive and forget after ten generations though aye?

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    @MN5 only if assimilated.

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    @jegga said in Beaver book:

    It says something about beaver that while we were castigating him over one kick a coaching legend like McGeechan was trying to sign him to his club .

    Which kick?

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    Missed touch in Hong Kong, 2010.

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    @gt12 said in Beaver book:

    @rotated

    Missed touch in Hong Kong, 2010.

    Not the missed penalty that would have put the game away a few minutes earlier?

    Or the repeated chip kicks out of his own 22 in South Africa in 2009?

    He wasn't a great All Black who was vilified for one poor kick. He was off the pace for his whole career, yet kept getting picked - Hong Kong was just the point where it became literally impossible to keep picking him.

    Each to their own but I find the pumping of Donald by a certain subset of the media, including the author, a little tiring.

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    @rotated

    It could be the missed penalty, but I'm pretty sure the 'kick' referred to in the book is the missed touch. I could be wrong though!

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    He's turned into a very handy 12, arguably better than he ever was at 10. Might have been better to play his whole career there.

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    @Billy-Tell said in Beaver book:

    He's turned into a very handy 12, arguably better than he ever was at 10. Might have been better to play his whole career there.

    He took a fair while to get a bit of solidity in his body. He was quite slight in his earlier years and wouldn't have made much of a midfielder.

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    @gt12 said in Beaver book:

    @rotated

    It could be the missed penalty, but I'm pretty sure the 'kick' referred to in the book is the missed touch. I could be wrong though!

    That is 'the kick', but there were plenty of howlers including that 10 minutes.

    Jegga said NZ castigated him over one kick, they didn't. They didn't even castigate him.

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    @rotated

    I did. All my friends did. Both of them.

    My Dad still doesn't really like him - even after 2011! He'll bring up that kick every time he hears Beaver's name, despite me reminding him that Beaver made it when it counted.

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    This thread is far less pornographic than the title suggests.

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