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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.
This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.
Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’
It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.
Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.
I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.
It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.
This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.
Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’
It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.
I don't think I've had bad beer from Liberty, they were my favourite brewery. Sawmill and Deep Creek have really lifted their game. Garage Project are a bit too out there for me unless I'm in the mood. A few years ago my wife and I had a new years resolution was to drink 2 new beers a week for a year. Was interesting (and we did it), but really confirmed that while we don't mind weird styles occasionally, we really like well made hoppy beers and pilsners.
Also, I'm totally over sour beers. They were such a thing, and just didn't float my boat
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@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.
This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.
Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’
It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.
Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.
I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.
It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'
Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.
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@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.
This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.
Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’
It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.
I don't think I've had bad beer from Liberty, they were my favourite brewery. Sawmill and Deep Creek have really lifted their game. Garage Project are a bit too out there for me unless I'm in the mood. A few years ago my wife and I had a new years resolution was to drink 2 new beers a week for a year. Was interesting (and we did it), but really confirmed that while we don't mind weird styles occasionally, we really like well made hoppy beers and pilsners.
Also, I'm totally over sour beers. They were such a thing, and just didn't float my boat
I do really rate a good sour on a hot day but amongst my mates I am in the minority.
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.
This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.
Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’
It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.
Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.
I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.
It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'
Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.
as you would expect from a Lion beer.
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.
This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.
Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’
It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.
I don't think I've had bad beer from Liberty, they were my favourite brewery. Sawmill and Deep Creek have really lifted their game. Garage Project are a bit too out there for me unless I'm in the mood. A few years ago my wife and I had a new years resolution was to drink 2 new beers a week for a year. Was interesting (and we did it), but really confirmed that while we don't mind weird styles occasionally, we really like well made hoppy beers and pilsners.
Also, I'm totally over sour beers. They were such a thing, and just didn't float my boat
I do really rate a good sour on a hot day but amongst my mates I am in the minority.
identity politics here we come!
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@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@nzzp said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.
This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.
Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’
It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.
I don't think I've had bad beer from Liberty, they were my favourite brewery. Sawmill and Deep Creek have really lifted their game. Garage Project are a bit too out there for me unless I'm in the mood. A few years ago my wife and I had a new years resolution was to drink 2 new beers a week for a year. Was interesting (and we did it), but really confirmed that while we don't mind weird styles occasionally, we really like well made hoppy beers and pilsners.
Also, I'm totally over sour beers. They were such a thing, and just didn't float my boat
I do really rate a good sour on a hot day but amongst my mates I am in the minority.
identity politics here we come!
I talk to other blokes on the internet. You should all hang your heads in shame as I do.
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.
This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.
Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’
It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.
Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.
I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.
It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'
Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.
I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets. -
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.
This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.
Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’
It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.
Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.
I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.
It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'
Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.
I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets.Yeah it's interesting how they do things. GP have a ridiculous amount of different logos and you're dead right, that core range does suit most tastes.
I think Epic have it pretty right. Very basic labeling but 5 of their 6 in the variety pack are truly great beers in my opinion.
As for Panhead a bunch of us have planned a minivan out there after lockdown, problem is any number of other fluffybunnies will have planned the same so not sure how they'll cope with the demand.
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.
This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.
Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’
It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.
Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.
I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.
It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'
Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.
I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets.Yeah it's interesting how they do things. GP have a ridiculous amount of different logos and you're dead right, that core range does suit most tastes.
I think Epic have it pretty right. Very basic labeling but 5 of their 6 in the variety pack are truly great beers in my opinion.
As for Panhead a bunch of us have planned a minivan out there after lockdown, problem is any number of other fluffybunnies will have planned the same so not sure how they'll cope with the demand.
It's a pretty popular place with the local bogan crowd. Black T-shirts are mandatory. Food is excellent.
I think they had to open another one in the city (Tory St) because the Brooklyn crowd were a bit frightened of the Upper Hutt ethic.
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@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.
This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.
Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’
It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.
Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.
I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.
It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'
Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.
I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets.Yeah it's interesting how they do things. GP have a ridiculous amount of different logos and you're dead right, that core range does suit most tastes.
I think Epic have it pretty right. Very basic labeling but 5 of their 6 in the variety pack are truly great beers in my opinion.
As for Panhead a bunch of us have planned a minivan out there after lockdown, problem is any number of other fluffybunnies will have planned the same so not sure how they'll cope with the demand.
It's a pretty popular place with the local bogan crowd. Black T-shirts are mandatory. Food is excellent.
I think they had to open another one in the city (Tory St) because the Brooklyn crowd were a bit frightened of the Upper Hutt ethic.Yeah they do a good feed and it's not "Hutt"ish at all. Problem is I've always been stuck driving whenever I've been there so couldn't indulge too much. I've only been to Tory Street once, hopeless.
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.
This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.
Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’
It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.
Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.
I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.
It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'
Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.
I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets.Yeah it's interesting how they do things. GP have a ridiculous amount of different logos and you're dead right, that core range does suit most tastes.
I think Epic have it pretty right. Very basic labeling but 5 of their 6 in the variety pack are truly great beers in my opinion.
As for Panhead a bunch of us have planned a minivan out there after lockdown, problem is any number of other fluffybunnies will have planned the same so not sure how they'll cope with the demand.
It's a pretty popular place with the local bogan crowd. Black T-shirts are mandatory. Food is excellent.
I think they had to open another one in the city (Tory St) because the Brooklyn crowd were a bit frightened of the Upper Hutt ethic.Yeah they do a good feed and it's not "Hutt"ish at all. Problem is I've always been stuck driving whenever I've been there so couldn't indulge too much. I've only been to the Tory Street , hopeless.
What do you think "Hutt"ish food is?
Bogans like burgers and BBQ and chips.
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@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.
This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.
Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’
It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.
Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.
I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.
It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'
Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.
I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets.Yeah it's interesting how they do things. GP have a ridiculous amount of different logos and you're dead right, that core range does suit most tastes.
I think Epic have it pretty right. Very basic labeling but 5 of their 6 in the variety pack are truly great beers in my opinion.
As for Panhead a bunch of us have planned a minivan out there after lockdown, problem is any number of other fluffybunnies will have planned the same so not sure how they'll cope with the demand.
It's a pretty popular place with the local bogan crowd. Black T-shirts are mandatory. Food is excellent.
I think they had to open another one in the city (Tory St) because the Brooklyn crowd were a bit frightened of the Upper Hutt ethic.Yeah they do a good feed and it's not "Hutt"ish at all. Problem is I've always been stuck driving whenever I've been there so couldn't indulge too much. I've only been to the Tory Street , hopeless.
What do you think "Hutt"ish food is?
Bogans like burgers and BBQ and chips.
I got the chicken burger from memory. I think the more processed it is the more Bogan it is. It's definitely more up market than the "Tote" that's for sure. But yeah, probably a bit scary for your typical lycra wearing cycling Double IPA sipping beer piston wristed gibbon.
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@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.
This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.
Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’
It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.
Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.
I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.
It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'
Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.
I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets.Yeah it's interesting how they do things. GP have a ridiculous amount of different logos and you're dead right, that core range does suit most tastes.
I think Epic have it pretty right. Very basic labeling but 5 of their 6 in the variety pack are truly great beers in my opinion.
As for Panhead a bunch of us have planned a minivan out there after lockdown, problem is any number of other fluffybunnies will have planned the same so not sure how they'll cope with the demand.
It's a pretty popular place with the local bogan crowd. Black T-shirts are mandatory. Food is excellent.
I think they had to open another one in the city (Tory St) because the Brooklyn crowd were a bit frightened of the Upper Hutt ethic.Yeah they do a good feed and it's not "Hutt"ish at all. Problem is I've always been stuck driving whenever I've been there so couldn't indulge too much. I've only been to the Tory Street , hopeless.
What do you think "Hutt"ish food is?
Bogans like burgers and BBQ and chips.
I got the chicken burger from memory. I think the more processed it is the more Bogan it is. It's definitely more up market than the "Tote" that's for sure. But yeah, probably a bit scary for your typical lycra wearing cycling Double IPA sipping beer piston wristed gibbon.
Hard not to be more upmarket than the Tote.
Mind you M4L would probably love the Tote. Mass beer brands, a TAB and leaners. Their idea of 'craft' is drilling out a pool ball to stick on a tap handle.
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@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Just trying 'Heels to Jesus' a Garage Project wild brew marrying Belgian yeasts with kiwi hops.
This is the type of 'craft beer' that justifies it's price easily. A well made experiment that doesn't try to be too crazy and doesn't slam you with alcohol.
My best description would be a hazy belgian pale ale with a nice balance of sour and bitter.
This is the type of brew that Wild Beer Company in Somerset come up with all the time and goes well with food.It was $6 a 330ml bottle but in comparison to the raft of "Just another fucking IPA"s that want similar you don't feel like you have paid way more than has been put in.
Garage Project try so much and it’s tough because they range from absolutely outstanding to ‘whoa, that’s a fucked up idea that doesn’t work’
It’s tough knowing which is which before you buy sometimes. I think Panhead and Lakeman are far more trustworthy on the whole.
Panhead make plenty of "meh!" beers as well. Difference is that GP bottle/can almost everything they make so more people can access it. Panhead just through a batch on tap at the taproom and see how it goes. They usually have about 8 one-off styles in addition to the core and seasonal beers.
I think the problem here is that if you just want a quaffing beer then 'craft' stuff makes little sense. If they do a 'plain' style then you can't seen why you'd pay a premium for next to no taste difference. If they do something interesting then it doesn't appeal as a session beer anyway. Too much flavour going on.
It's like saying 'that wagyu burger is a rip off. I can buy 3 big macs at that price'
Yeah fair call, there are definitely better beers out there than the Panhead Pilsner, I'll give you that but the argument I make is they find out what is good and stick to it.
I'm not just defending GP but you could argue that they do the same with their core range. Pernacious Weed, Garagista and Hapi Daze are excellent core range beers.
As I said, the difference is that they also distribute their 'play' stuff whereas Panhead keep it at the taprooms. They make some pretty wild and wacky stuff too, you just probably don't see it.
I think another thing is that labelling/marketing for GP makes all their beers look like one offs. Their isn't the consistent logo/label thing happening as with Panhead where you think you are buying a brand first, then choosing a style. Different markets.Yeah it's interesting how they do things. GP have a ridiculous amount of different logos and you're dead right, that core range does suit most tastes.
I think Epic have it pretty right. Very basic labeling but 5 of their 6 in the variety pack are truly great beers in my opinion.
As for Panhead a bunch of us have planned a minivan out there after lockdown, problem is any number of other fluffybunnies will have planned the same so not sure how they'll cope with the demand.
It's a pretty popular place with the local bogan crowd. Black T-shirts are mandatory. Food is excellent.
I think they had to open another one in the city (Tory St) because the Brooklyn crowd were a bit frightened of the Upper Hutt ethic.Yeah they do a good feed and it's not "Hutt"ish at all. Problem is I've always been stuck driving whenever I've been there so couldn't indulge too much. I've only been to the Tory Street , hopeless.
What do you think "Hutt"ish food is?
Bogans like burgers and BBQ and chips.
I got the chicken burger from memory. I think the more processed it is the more Bogan it is. It's definitely more up market than the "Tote" that's for sure. But yeah, probably a bit scary for your typical lycra wearing cycling Double IPA sipping beer piston wristed gibbon.
Hard not to be more upmarket than the Tote.
Mind you M4L would probably love the Tote. Mass beer brands, a TAB and leaners. Their idea of 'craft' is drilling out a pool ball to stick on a tap handle.
don't forget row upon row of pokies and the rancid stench of JD and coke.
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Before lockdown, other places had got their food setups running at Brewtown as well.
You can ignore the Kereru one. Just seems like a local mate of the brewery got in and convinced them he could do something. It misses the boat badly. I really like Kereru but they have missed out slightly by setting up early on the 'wrong' side of the industrial park. Everything else has come in an built around Panhead.
Boneface food wise is more family friendly. Te Aro only started food in Feb and have been closed since. Not sure what they will be offering.
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@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Before lockdown, other places had got their food setups running at Brewtown as well.
You can ignore the Kereru one. Just seems like a local mate of the brewery got in and convinced them he could do something. It misses the boat badly. I really like Kereru but they have missed out slightly by setting up early on the 'wrong' side of the industrial park. Everything else has come in an built around Panhead.
Boneface food wise is more family friendly. Te Aro only started food in Feb and have been closed since. Not sure what they will be offering.
Kerurus beer is also average at best compared to Panhead and Boneface.
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@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Before lockdown, other places had got their food setups running at Brewtown as well.
You can ignore the Kereru one. Just seems like a local mate of the brewery got in and convinced them he could do something. It misses the boat badly. I really like Kereru but they have missed out slightly by setting up early on the 'wrong' side of the industrial park. Everything else has come in an built around Panhead.
Boneface food wise is more family friendly. Te Aro only started food in Feb and have been closed since. Not sure what they will be offering.
Kerurus beer is also average at best compared to Panhead and Boneface.
They make some good stuff and I tend to support them (among others) as a local business. They do good stuff locally giving back to community projects too (planting for birds etc). Nice when you can actually see the results.
They are competent brewers and rigger/growler prices at the brewery are OK but they aren't $5 a can nice for their everyday stuff.
I am a bit of a dark beer fan and really like the Coconut Porter on a winter's night -
@nzzp said in Beer thread:
I just drank a hazy fresh hop IPA, cost about $10-$11 for 440ml. Well worth it, was very tasty.
Pale ales these days are so hit and miss. Far too many piston wristed gibbons making passionfruit/ cucumber/ watermelon infused IPA or some other travesty. Then to add insult to injury is the price they fell they're entitled to charge because it's unique or isn't in massive volumes.
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@Crucial said in Beer thread:
@MN5 said in Beer thread:
@Crucial said in Beer thread:
Before lockdown, other places had got their food setups running at Brewtown as well.
You can ignore the Kereru one. Just seems like a local mate of the brewery got in and convinced them he could do something. It misses the boat badly. I really like Kereru but they have missed out slightly by setting up early on the 'wrong' side of the industrial park. Everything else has come in an built around Panhead.
Boneface food wise is more family friendly. Te Aro only started food in Feb and have been closed since. Not sure what they will be offering.
Kerurus beer is also average at best compared to Panhead and Boneface.
They make some good stuff and I tend to support them (among others) as a local business. They do good stuff locally giving back to community projects too (planting for birds etc). Nice when you can actually see the results.
They are competent brewers and rigger/growler prices at the brewery are OK but they aren't $5 a can nice for their everyday stuff.
I am a bit of a dark beer fan and really like the Coconut Porter on a winter's nightYeah their Porter is decent but the rest aren't a patch on their neighbours. Their beer is just empty in comparision.
